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benhogan 06-02-2011 05:29 PM

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the motor series is 130000, the carb is part number 498298 and probably looks like this bad boy shown with the diaphrams

benhogan 06-02-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 2728231)
Well the guy didnt even clean the carb--and when i got done--There was not any rust left loose in the tank--I am sure of that, Its kinda dry-er here and the kind of rust you are used to seeing in a fuel tank --its not as likely here--no "flakes" just a little "sand" The kind that could easily be taken care of with some shot pellets and -Shake it up- like a maraca...
I think.......

sand?

anyway, if you can get the tank really really clean then you should be fine.

clean the carb really well, replace the rubber diaphragms and you should be fine.

benhogan 06-02-2011 05:37 PM

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here's the diagram with the part numbers

panZZer 06-02-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by benhogan (Post 2728236)
sand?

anyway, if you can get the tank really really clean then you should be fine.

clean the carb really well, replace the rubber diaphragms and you should be fine.

I did take the crank cover off--and there is this pivoting sheet metal plate--that the little wire with the loop in it going out to the carb connects to-To the lever that has a screw for adjusting #97-What i dont know(because when that lever is pushed to where that screw could adjust anything -No way the engine will run).
But let me be a little more clear the wire going from the plate that pivots in and out under the crank cover--attaches to Two points out on the carb-- i guess its the governer linkage
.The lever out near the official choke #97 (cylinder in the end of the carb which U pull or push)
. and before that there is the loop in the wire with the spring running to the idle speed adjustment screw riding on the sloping bracket what appears to be #s 203 and 205.

rscurtis 06-03-2011 11:09 AM

Completely fill the tank with gas, almost to the point of overflowing. This will eliminate the fuel pump as a source of your trouble. If the engine runs, the metering system in the carb. is OK. If it doesn't, the problem is with the shorter of the two tubes or the main jet nozzles in the carb. body. If it ran OK with the tank overfilled, drain some fuel from the tank and run the engine on a prime. As it runs, look toward the center of the tank with the cap removed, and you should see fuel spilling from the well under the carb. If you don't, the problem is with the fuel pump, which involves the long tube, diaphragm, diaphragm spring and spring seat. The correct orientation from the carb. body is spring, seat, diaprhagm, and cover. If the spring is outside the diaphragm, the pump won't work.

Parts for these engines are readily available on ebay, just be sure you get the right tank if you need it. It looks like a 5HP tank, but the 5HP tank is too tall to fit your 3.5 engine.

panZZer 06-03-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rscurtis (Post 2728603)
Completely fill the tank with gas, almost to the point of overflowing. This will eliminate the fuel pump as a source of your trouble. If the engine runs, the metering system in the carb. is OK. If it doesn't, the problem is with the shorter of the two tubes or the main jet nozzles in the carb. body. If it ran OK with the tank overfilled, drain some fuel from the tank and run the engine on a prime. As it runs, look toward the center of the tank with the cap removed, and you should see fuel spilling from the well under the carb. If you don't, the problem is with the fuel pump, which involves the long tube, diaphragm, diaphragm spring and spring seat. The correct orientation from the carb. body is spring, seat, diaprhagm, and cover. If the spring is outside the diaphragm, the pump won't work.

Parts for these engines are readily available on ebay, just be sure you get the right tank if you need it. It looks like a 5HP tank, but the 5HP tank is too tall to fit your 3.5 engine.

Ok I appreciate that too. This site mentioned in the 4th paragraph -The brass tube is supposed to be press fit into the carb and not removed. Mine was loose and came right out.
http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/briggs_pulsa-jet_horiz_fixed.asp
I know its fuel delivery and the tube top seems to be a place where the circut is loosing suction, Im thinking a bit of epoxy smeared around the tube and then stid in would seal it.
The diaphram was good and some say the diaphrams harden and wont work properly--but they dont harden instantly so I still thin this one doesn't need replacing, another site mentioned a black kill wire coming from the mag that can short out--no such wire on this horizontal.
and last the wire governor coming from that pivoting plate under the crank cover---I connects to the governor bracket( shaped like Nevada) and the engine will only start brifly when its in the open position in the pic--and when its like that the screw is no-where near its adjustment cam?????

panZZer 06-04-2011 02:16 PM

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I took the carb and tank off again. The tube inside had either rattled loose by itself or came out when I was removing the carb. Anyway I cleaned the orface and tube and applied a tiny bit of epoxy, the suction problem should be cured now.
The tank still had some rust (mud) from the bottom so-this time I got some crushed granite and sifted it to get a certain rubble size and ran a few batches thru it shaking it like mad-First batch brought out a lot of fine rust chalk.
The granite is perfect for cleaning tanks inside-sharp chips just hone any rust -anything right off. They get dull and you gotta swap out some new, and not much anything--Scale/ flakes could hang in there. Its clean bare metal inside now--I wish there was an over the counter tank sealer I could coat the inside with before I go and get some free gaskets /diaphram from a buddy(small motor man") he calls himself and put it back together. The carb must be a much earlier one. Its a lot simpler that the one in the link posted earlier--The tube is a single brass piece instead of the two piece and the secondary suction syphon is much simpler.

panZZer 10-16-2011 05:07 PM

Its messin with me again-- I took it apart and found a chunk of something in the port coming fron the suction tube cleaned it out--and some fine rust in the bottom of the tank, I cleaned the tank again with the fine pulverized granite, made sure all the passages are clear-- and its still got a fuel suction problem, the diaphram was replaced last go around ,

I solved the tube rattling loose problem and it ran good evertime I ran it for months

I stumped again and sick of repeatedly taking apart and putting back together. I tried filling tank to the top, still no no good.http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...cons/icon8.gif


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