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Old 06-05-2011, 08:21 AM
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Racsism,, Is the shoe on the other foot?

I know this is a blog, but the writer makes an interesting point. Now that there is a black man in the Republican primary race, can it be said that the MSM are bigots simply because they refuse to acknowledge he is even in the race?

Are Time and Mark Halperin Racist? Herman Cain Omitted Twice in GOP Oddsmaking

By Tim Graham | June 03, 2011 | 23:03

Twice in the last two weeks has Time magazine devoted a page to Mark Halperin's oddsmaking on who will be the Republican nominee -- the May 23 issue (page 35) and the June 6 issue (page 16). Twice, there's been no mention of Herman Cain. The GOP cast of contenders is lily-white. This seems odd, since Cain participated in the first presidential debate on May 5 to high praise and formally announced on May 21. Are Time and Halperin racists? They can't say they're unaware that Cain is running.

They can't say that Cain is too much of a long shot. In the first set of odds, Halperin put Michele Bachmann at 1,000-to-1. (The best odds in order were to Romney, Huckabee, Daniels, Pawlenty, Huntsman, Gingrich, and Palin, second to last at 60 to 1.) In the second set, Huckabee and Daniels were removed from the list, and Santorum (at 500 to 1) and Ron Paul (at 2,000 to 1) were added. Bachmann was still at 1,000 to 1. Halperin also added "Mystery Candidate" -- but named those (Rick Perry, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, and Jeb Bush.)

Time magazine should really have to explain this remarkable (double) oversight of a black Republican.

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Old 06-05-2011, 09:00 AM
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Do you think it's unusual that they report on the well known nut balls, while ignoring the less well known nut balls? The real question is why they are bothering with any of the fringe candidates. Who is this guy anyway, some kind of talk radio personality?
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:31 AM
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Not a career politician, for one thing. That's a PLUS.
Entrepreneur, another plus.
History of turning around failing businesses. another plus

Don't allow your world view to be framed by the MSM.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:39 AM
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Not a career politician, for one thing. That's a PLUS.
Entrepreneur, another plus.
History of turning around failing businesses. another plus

Don't allow your world view to be framed by the MSM.
Now MS, you are being logical & rational in your reasoning !!
Since when are logical & rational thoughts considered in these sorts of choices?

I was told the other day that Ms Palin should get breast augmentation surgery to increase her chances (of pre-selection)!!
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:40 AM
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Not a career politician, for one thing. That's a PLUS.
Entrepreneur, another plus.
History of turning around failing businesses. another plus

Don't allow your world view to be framed by the MSM.
I don't think I've ever seen MSM. Why do we care about candidates that have zero chance of winning? Publicizing these guys is making the republicans look silly; isn't it time for the adults to step in and control their message?
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:06 AM
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Just wait until debate time. It makes it seem like there were only ever three candidates.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:11 AM
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Just wait until debate time. It makes it seem like there were only ever three candidates.
I'm still waiting for the first real candidate to show up.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:43 PM
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MSM is a fairly big club. Racism exists irrespective of political persuasion.

Mr. Cain has gotten coverage, considering that his most public national appearance to date was the debate last month, consisting mostly of those that haven't announced their candidacy either and more notable for the GOP folks that didn't even show up.
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Not a career politician, for one thing. That's a PLUS.
Entrepreneur, another plus.
History of turning around failing businesses. another plus

Don't allow your world view to be framed by the MSM.
Does not appear to know much about the Constitution - Not a plus. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/05/23/168628/cain-reread-constitution/

Doesn't know much about the Middle East - Not a plus. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/cain-i-didnt-understand-the-right-of-return-video.php

No evidence that he understands what to do in Afghanistan - Not a plus. http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/herman-cain-refuses-reveal-plans-afghan

Prejudiced against muslims - Not a plus. http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/cain-joins-romney-barring-muslims-cabinet

On the other hand, Cain is a very impressive guy and an unbelievably good businessman. He is also completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief.
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I wonder who is more worthless as a political commentator, Mark Halperin or
Tim Graham. Do either of them change anyone's opinions? Halperin, IMHO, is the ultimate Villager, a term often used by left-wing bloggers. Here's a good definition of the term:
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...In political terms, the term “Villagers” denotes a kind of small-minded refusal to think outside an “acceptable” center-right consensus, and a refusal to acknowledge it when a majority of the American people take a view on a particular issue that is not in line with that center-right consensus. Thus, the “Villagers” include, in part, Democratic elected officials and consultants who insist that their party can’t succeed unless they ally their party with that center-right consensus; think-tankers who churn out position papers designed to prop up this elite consensus view; and elite pundits who insist that mainstream liberal views are radically leftist and insist on “bipartisanship” for its own sake, damn the consequences...
"Morning Joe" is pretty much 100% Villagers. Worthless.

Our media are just so awful. It's a shame.
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On the other hand, Cain is a very impressive guy and an unbelievably good businessman. He is also completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief.
Is he any less qualified, or experienced than Obama was this this point, 4 years ago?
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Our media are just so awful. It's a shame.
I actually think our media is very good. Problem is many people watching/reading lack the mental capacity on how to separate what's is opinion, what is hype, and what is accurate.
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Is he any less qualified, or experienced than Obama was this this point, 4 years ago?
In terms of government experience, the difference is slight. Obama was, and is, more knowledgeable about our constitutional system of government and about public policy issues in general.

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I actually think our media is very good...
They fail over and over again. We would not be in Iraq if the media had not acted as stenographers for Bush/Cheney's ridiculous push for that war. The big problem, IMHO, is that news celebrities like the late Tim Russert make way too much money. I don't fault them for making as much as they can. The problem is that the money causes them to do what's best for their ratings/circulation, not what the public needs. That's why, for example, they all agreed that Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet. By sticking with that story they all knew they would be safe. It happens over and over. Right now, the agreed upon theme is how our biggest domestic crisis is the debt, which makes no economic sense at all. The biggest problem is the lack of jobs. The distinction is important because the extreme austerity being pushed by both parties (one more extreme than the other) is exactly what the economy does not need right now. Perhaps that is a bogus economic argument, but to read and listen to the news, you would hardly know that economists are making the argument.

I singled out the late Tim Russert because he was the most obvious practitioner of the herd mentality among the media elite. In March 2003, Dick Cheney was on Meet the Press (again). He said about Saddam, "We believe he has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons." It was a monumental lie. Russert did not even say, "Really?" He simply moved on to the next question. That's why he was Cheney's favorite TV host. Meanwhile, off to war we went.
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I cannot honestly imagine the R party nominating a black man for their candidate.

Of course not too long ago I could not imagine the D party nominating a black man either. Especially with a Muslim sounding name.

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