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Old 06-29-2011, 10:00 PM
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Bush got congressional approval before his adventures. Obama did not.
and bush lied. and congress knuckled under. yes.

they're all complicit. one doesn't excuse the other.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:05 PM
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and bush lied. and congress knuckled under. yes.

they're all complicit. one doesn't excuse the other.
Whether Bush lied or not is
a) subject to interpretation
b) doesn't matter.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say that the the constitutional process of law-making is dependent on the veracity of elected officials.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:13 PM
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Whether Bush lied or not is
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b) doesn't matter.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say that the the constitutional process of law-making is dependent on the veracity of elected officials.
gee, for a disinterested observer (allegedly) you always seem to end up supporting the right. what a coincidence.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:24 PM
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Whether Bush lied or not is
a) subject to interpretation
b) doesn't matter.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say that the the constitutional process of law-making is dependent on the veracity of elected officials.
Indeed, the Presidential Oath of Office does not require a promise to tell the truth. Does that mean we should not expect the President to do so?
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:30 PM
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Indeed, the Presidential Oath of Office does not require a promise to tell the truth. Does that mean we should not expect the President to do so?
Only a fool expects 'truth' from a politician.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:36 PM
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Only a fool expects 'truth' from a politician.
Only a Republican would say that.
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