I'm on my second LS and it's one hell of a machine. 290hp, 27 mpg highway, never breaks, quiet as a church. I'm on my second, and yes, it's not as exciting as a 5-series or an E-class, but it also doesn't cost me $2000 every time the Check Engine light comes on.

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1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600

IDK, my 240D seems to be able to hold at 80-85 mph indicated no sweat, once it gets there

What about up a 10% grade?

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2016 Corvette Stingray 2LT
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Or the 1% grade for that matter.

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Lexus makes me want to vomit. It's a souless, ugly, trend following POS Toyota wannabe Mercedes. I drive my 240D all over the place, all the time, over long distances with a smile on my face. The day I drive a Lexus POS wannabe social climbing piece of trend following German car copying trash is the day I die. Hahahahaha!!!!!

Oh and did I tell you that I hate Lexus! So many vulgarities I'd like to hurl out at this car but I will curb my tongue to keep this place civil.

Well, after having been t-boned by a Ford Explorer at 50 mph in my first 87 300D, my feeling is it's pretty damned hard to die in a Mercedes, thank gawd.

And that 87 had no trouble getting up to 85 in one heck of a hurry if I wanted - and do 30 mpg once it was there. Those two extra cylinders and a turbo make one heck of a difference.

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Mitchell Oates
Mooresville, NC
'87 300D 212K miles
'87 300D 151K miles - R.I.P. 12/08
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD 67K miles
Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club

What is all this "souless" crap? Cars are machines, they certainly have never had souls. I've never heard anything more ridiculous, from what I assume are grown men, in my life.

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Former owner of a few diesel MB cars
1998 Lexus ES 300 In Chicago We Trust

This is how I feel about Lexus. I hate the car for many reasons. Emotions don't have to have a rational basis.

Yeah you really have no rational reason to hate lexus other than the fact that Lexus came out of nowhere and beat Mercedes at its own game. I mean really, which do think is more likely to leave you on the side of the road, a 15 year old Lexus or a 15 year old Benz? If anything Lexus forced mercedes to up its game and thats a good thing. They are finally catching up.

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Hmmm. And which is likely to leave you dead on the side of the road in the event of a serious accident? I'd say Lexus is the clear winner. Lexus sucks.

They just have no spirit. I couldn't explain it in any other way. I get a different feeling driving our 740iL, which just feels solid, responsive and quick, than I do driving my 560 which feels balanced, steadfast and a Q-ship.

It's why I drive a Mercedes and not a Kia. They feel 'different' when you're at the wheel. They don't feel like they were meant just to get you from point A to B like an economy car, but to be an enjoyable experience.

Definitely not referring to an 'actual' spirit or soul.

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1987 560SEL (210,000 miles)

Ive heard people make the same tired argument when discussing BMW vs MB in favor of BMW. yawn.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

That's true, Mercedes tends to be high on the "snore-o-meter" scale when it comes to a driving experience.

X2. I like the driving dynamics of the BMW much more.

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'07 Yukon 2500
'13 Subaru Outback 3.6R
'13 Orbea Carpe 9-speed

Currently Benzless
Formerly: 300TD, S600, E55, 560SEL

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