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Old 08-17-2011, 11:02 AM
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This should serve to remind us of the enduring power in cross-cultural responses to global inequality.

At the very least..the situation has given voice to a new responsiveness to the United States' assertion of global legal sovereignty.

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Old 08-17-2011, 11:13 AM
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I bet the child has brand new nike runners & an Iphone.
People live within their means even if they have to beg, borrow & steal to do so. There is a big difference between wants & needs !!!
They were times in my life when I had to dig in dumpsters at 14 yo to find food, and the kicker was that my mother had lots of money including $250 a month because my dad was a disabled war vet. My mother and step father spent every nickle my sister and I received from our dad. so I know how it is to starve and have to wear the same flea market clothes everyday to school. Kids today need to have their a$$es kicked and be made to get by on what their parents give them. Sorry for the rant. to this day I buy my clothes at yard sales and the Salvation army.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:18 AM
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That is true. But the nature and whereabouts of the father has a lot to do with the whole responsiblility thing in the first place. Was she raped? Or simply fukkin around? Not enough facts about her past to make a definitive judgement. But given her age, status, and problems good choices do not appear to have been high on her list in the past.

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Ah, but she started too late! She should have been in undergraduate school back in her late teens, going to Vassar. Her parents should have been Buick-driving attorneys and her suburban house should have had a white picket fence. Very irresponsible of her for not being in that type of situation, and many on this thread clearly haven't forgotten that we all start out equal in life, with identical opportunities, especially minority women.
Obviously its all her fault and now we must all look down on her for trying to go to school and take care of her child on the limited funds she has. I'm sure glad sjh is ready to judge at the drop of a hat. Too bad he doesn't have the balls to say it to her face.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:28 AM
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Easy there. We all know which sex is the root of all evil. Do I have to paint a picture here?


Obviously its all her fault and now we must all look down on her for trying to go to school and take care of her child on the limited funds she has. I'm sure glad sjh is ready to judge at the drop of a hat. Too bad he doesn't have the balls to say it to her face.
sjh to my knowledge doesnt know the young lady in question..so saying something about his scrotum is illogical.

Why are you so hostile towards sjh?
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:36 AM
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sjh to my knowledge doesnt know the young lady in question..so saying something about his scrotum is illogical.

Why are you so hostile towards sjh?
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For 50 years people have been exposed to persuasion by repetition, volume and emotion

it's what they have been taught

when someone states this is my position because of 1, 2, 3

the only response most know is to hold up their picket sign, whether literally or metaphorically, and wave, yell and protest

that's the limit of their ability to discourse

it's what they have been taught - it's not their fault

have no concern for me my friend, with what I have been through this is nothing - thank you though

ahh, the doe-eyed women, you are a wise man

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Old 08-17-2011, 11:42 AM
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For 50 years people have been exposed to persuasion by repetition, volume and emotion

it's what they have been taught

when someone states this is my position because of 1, 2, 3

the only response most know is to hold up their picket sign, whether literally or metaphorically, and wave, yell and protest

that's the limit of their ability to discourse

it's what they have been taught - it's not their fault

when a PhD (I think) humanities professor engages in this method then it is disheartening, not only because it indicates the depths to which the discipline has sunk but also because he teaches this to his students.

have no concern for me my friend, with what I have been through this is nothing - thank you though

ahh, the doe-eyed women, you are a wise man

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Being a single parent is hard; period.
Today It's not a matter of woulda, coulda, shoulda.

The question is:... What can she do NOW, to have the life she thinks she needs?
What is the picture of success to her? And how does she get there ?

Rhetorical Question: And how does society help adjust her erroneous expectations of the way she thinks 'things should be'.... to a form of reality of the way things are.
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because he teaches this to his students.
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You really are quite confident in your ignorance.
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The tactic I prefer to use is..'The louder you scream..the higher you jump..the more you pound your chest-the politer I become-You lose your case"
It's actually been very helpful.

I had been taking high levels of multiple drugs for much of the past year.

I've meet quite a few people that I'd enjoy getting to know better.

The antagonists, particularly the emotion-driven, irrational ones are sort of like sparring in the dojo before a tournament.

It flexes my mind, pushes me sometimes (not often enough, though Honus is fun to engage) and also allows me to acknowledge my errors, make corrections, practice inter-personal skills, and when required to be humble and apologize.

It's somewhat dis-heartening how few others are sufficiently at ease or seeking self-awareness to be able to 'acknowledge errors, make corrections and apologize.'
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It's actually been very helpful.

I had been taking high levels of multiple drugs for much of the past year.

I've meet quite a few people that I'd enjoy getting to know better.

The antagonists, particularly the emotion-driven, irrational ones are sort of like sparring in the dojo before a tournament.

It flexes my mind, pushes me sometimes (not often enough, though Honus is fun to engage) and also allows me to acknowledge my errors, make corrections, practice inter-personal skills, and when required to be humble and apologize.

It's somewhat dis-heartening how few others are sufficiently at ease or seeking self-awareness to be able to 'acknowledge errors, make corrections and apologize.'
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"great spirit, help me to never judge another, until i have walked a mile in his moccassins"
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I always ask myself in these situations, "What would Jesus do?"
I believe Jesus would give that young woman a lecture about responsibility and tell her to quit acting like a victim. Then he'd kick her ass out on the street and let her learn a REAL lesson. That's what Jesus'd do. All that crap about feeding the hungry and healing the sick was made up anyhow. He didn't really say it.
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I always ask myself in these situations, "What would Jesus do?"
I believe Jesus would give that young woman a lecture about responsibility and tell her to quit acting like a victim. Then he'd kick her ass out on the street and let her learn a REAL lesson. That's what Jesus'd do. All that crap about feeding the hungry and healing the sick was made up anyhow. He didn't really say it.
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I always ask myself in these situations, "What would Jesus do?"
I believe Jesus would give that young woman a lecture about responsibility and tell her to quit acting like a victim. Then he'd kick her ass out on the street and let her learn a REAL lesson. That's what Jesus'd do. All that crap about feeding the hungry and healing the sick was made up anyhow. He didn't really say it.
My sarcasm detector is working today.
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Guy hasn't got the cojones in 500 plus words of equivocation to tell me directly that I'm gonna burn in hell because I reject Jesus but he sure turns into a tough guy when it's some girl on a news website who can't answer back. Fail.

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