You seem to "comment" on where you think people get there views from with images you scrounge up searching the internet quite often. That to me indicates you cannot step up to the level of actually responding to the arguments posted validity itself.

Call me when SJH makes his first valid argument. We're all ears.

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Never read the bible but didn't adam and eve get their butt kicked out of the garden for eating the apple? Was that the first eviction?

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Once again you are avoiding the focus. Thereby substantiateing MTU's claim.

Why not cruise back on over to DD. Its obvious that you are just a hit-and-run snark here on OD.

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Thanks man.

I am far from perfect in many ways.

But from time-to-time I ask a valid question and some here just try to steam-roll me instead of dealing with the question.

You better watch out, you'll be tainted by association.

Thanks again.

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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, makes no nevermind to me. I would merely point you to several threads in which there were hundreds of words used to elaborate his position on why he could or couldn't have a discussion with someone based on their usage of terms, not to mention the tedious belaboring of his heroic life changes. This is a forum, not a class. There is no quiz tomorrow.

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I am so at ease speaking of the Bible and what it says. But this is not a seminary and anyone who wishes knows my beliefs.

However, some folks take excerpts, with apparently no grasp of the context, of what is actually being said, and use that to support their argument.

I don't mean something exotic and only the 'special folks' can understand. I mean basic comprehension.

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Repeatedly references are made to the Sermon on the Mount. OK >>

The message of the Bible is about a relationship with God, not advocating someone's preferred social agenda.

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Your welcome- but I'm not on anyone's "side" as some (not saying you) seem to think. As an independent voter and person I try to see things which make little logical sense and question them. You do introduce jesus's views when unasked- but I could care less. You do also talk about your health issues- but it seems to say that if you make a mistake it could be related to the fact you are in recovery and taking medication which influences your speaking. That's a good thing to preface comments IMHO.
What I do see is others who obviously dislike you or your comments attempt to belittle you via what they may think is a weak spot- your religious views. It shows them to be of incapable of defeating the logic of your comments and respond in an intelligent manner. If anyone looks at the majority of attacks on you it's clear this is true.

When people respond and ask to clarify, or speak in advance so that it'll be clear what exactly they are responding to, that's good- it makes the issue clearer. I see no such thing with your speaking. Instead I see a reluctance to engage. I asked you to respond to my comments about the girl you spoke of and you came up with this- which reinforces my previous point. Care to comment about my response as I asked or will you go off tangent again?

All fair comments.

Actually, I have made a very deliberate effort to only express my religious views in response when other's raise them.

I also have a number of times apologized, complimented others, stated that I was wrong, retracted statements and corrected errors.

I have been off medication for a number of weeks and can exercise about 3 days a week. I have less brain fog each day. By the end of the month I'm hopeful of being able to go extended periods without 'crashing.'

I still think your encouraging of 'basic decency' warrants positive reinforcement.

Thanks.

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golf clap....

'course folks have no idea what someone else has been through.

Assuming such, basing your arguments on that assumption, etc could be called a simplification.

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For some reason I just had the mental picture of a dog chasing it's tail.

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Sure. You said, in part:
Could those same people as shown in this example make it with private non profit help? The answers to those questions boils down to individuals' answers- and my answer is the government use of my money is wasted by in large. It was not wasted on her, and so if we could give more money to private non profit help of our choice instead of the to the government we would have more control of it and get better results. Your choice is that my money- and perhaps yours- it best spent by the government, and my choice is that it is not. Yet you want to dictate to me how my money is spent- which I strongly disagree with.

What makes you think I want to dictate how your money is spent? I'd appreciate it if you'd not lump me into some sort of imaginary leftist mind set. You will find after careful reading of my statements that I have not taken exception to the fact that a welfare/entitlement subculture exists in this country. I merely put forth the idea that the causes and solutions are complicated. That it's a self perpetuating trap is pretty evident. When you claim that my choice is that your money is best spent by the government, you are putting words into my mouth that I didn't say, and I don't appreciate it. Talk about assumptions. Unless of course you can quote where I said that, in which case I will stand corrected.

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That's an understatement.

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