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Perry's stubbornness coupled with his general ignorance and right wing christian leanings is a very very scary combination. He possesses the 2 most dangerous things a person in his position can have and that is ignorance and arrogance. He is too ignorant to know and too arrogant to ask.
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you need to view the old frontline epesode about BushII and lee Atwater- its just an angle th get the loons, nothing more. bush takes a walk one day with Billy Grahm and is suddenly saved and --sure, Ubetcha. |
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really? Here's a link whose last sentence reads "And so we rule the statement by Cantor — and other Republicans who have said the same thing — Barely True." (with regards to this statement: "We were promised. The president said we would keep unemployment under 8.5 percent (if the stimulus passed).")
Eric Cantor on Wednesday, July 8th, 2009 in a PBS interview. I do not know about the objectivity of the link, but barely true is more true than "false". |
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Political premisses. Texas style.
Whiskey In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position on whiskey. What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political Archives of Texas). "If you mean whiskey, the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame, despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it with every fiber of my being. However, if by whiskey you mean the lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning; if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to forget life's great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow; if you mean that drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of it. This is my position and, as always, I refuse to compromise on matters of principle" |
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I stand corrected -- 8%.
To make the case for a big stimulus package, they released their economic forecast for the next few years. Without the stimulus, they saw the unemployment rate -- then 7.2 percent -- rising above 8 percent in 2009 and peaking at 9 percent next year. With the stimulus, the advisers said, unemployment would probably peak at 8 percent late this year. NYT |
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and yet, you claim to be a moralist, and a christian who believes in the platonic ideals? fail.
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I wasn't referring to the percentage figure you cited. The more significant error in your previous post was your claim that Obama promised that unemployment would not rise above a certain amount. Obama never made any such promise.
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I hope he has more obstruction, not less. His promiscuous spending combined with Bush's is driving this nation into a debt death spiral. More gridlock, please. |
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Apparently you don't got it. Of course his administration represents him. I'm not sure why you thought I said anything to the contrary. The issue we were discussing was whether President Obama honors his commitments. It was in connection with Yak's comment that, "Perry says what he needs to say to get elected." You replied to Yak with a string of GOP talking points about commitments Obama supposedly made and then failed to fulfill. Included in your reply was the accusation that Obama promised to keep unemployment below a certain level if he got his spending bills passed. Obama never made any such promise and, AFAIK, he followed through on what he said he would do on that issue. Unfortunately, his projections were wrong, but it has nothing to do with saying "what he needs to say to get elected."
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