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Old 10-04-2011, 08:47 PM
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Of course if he is paid $9/hr he costs the employer close to $20 to $25 an hour(depending on the state).
And THAT is not understood by way too many people.

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Old 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM
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Those fatcat moneybags bastards shouldn't make a dime more than they pay. Everybody should be equal.
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:07 PM
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Of course if he is paid $9/hr he costs the employer close to $20 to $25 an hour(depending on the state).
Sure, if said employee gets health insurance, stock options, bonuses every quarter. But nope, not when corporate changed the criteria and raked in an even bigger profit the next year.
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:12 PM
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Sure, if said employee gets health insurance, stock options, bonuses every quarter. But nope, not when corporate changed the criteria and raked in an even bigger profit the next year.
You understand you are not talking about the neighbor's kid you hired to mow your lawn, right? There are other costs besides that which you stated. Have you ever hired a legitimate employee and seen the costs?
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:30 PM
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You understand you are not talking about the neighbor's kid you hired to mow your lawn, right? There are other costs besides that which you stated. Have you ever hired a legitimate employee and seen the costs?
Nope, I wont know until I have my own business. If I ever decided to do so. But for now I'm pretty much done with this thread because I have no information to structure my argument over and form logical points.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:22 PM
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:20 AM
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Please tell me that you fired them quickly. Either fire them "chinese style" (up against the wall) or terminate their employment.
Texas allows a 90-day probationary period; I try to 'save' all the new hires, but some are just too worthless to save and you never know the work ethic of a new employee until he's up and running with the company. To start them at $9 an hour is insulting to my good employees who have worked their way up the ladder.
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Of course if he is paid $9/hr he costs the employer close to $20 to $25 an hour(depending on the state).
Cost of doing bussiness, much like finding out you have to buy equipment to operate
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:35 PM
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Cost of doing bussiness[sic], much like finding out you have to buy equipment to operate
Those costs of doing business get rolled over to the customer; when prices go up, people have less money for other things. Like rent, utilities, and health insurance. Just sacking it to businesses is no way to start up the economy.
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Those costs of doing business get rolled over to the customer; when prices go up, people have less money for other things. Like rent, utilities, and health insurance. Just sacking it to businesses is no way to start up the economy.
Risk of doing business: raise your prices too high I don't need you.
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Of course if he is paid $9/hr he costs the employer close to $20 to $25 an hour(depending on the state).
Once again, not your employee, you are just renting from the state. By the time you pay taxes, insurance, interest, etc, just another form of slavery.
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If you take into account what taxes youre paying across the board daily then a HM wage hike turns over to be a wash ,the bottom line for the tax man is your earning more to pay more taxes.It would be intersting to see what tax hikes these states are proposing.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:30 AM
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Risk of doing business: raise your prices too high I don't need you.
Exactly. Which is the reason businesses leave cities/states/countries for less expensive venues to keep their prices at a level which the customer will pay.

It's a vicious cycle that forces jobs elsewhere (from wherever "here" may be).

The bottom line is, if the American public (as a whole) were willing to pay what it would cost for 100% Made in the USA, there wouldn't be a need to outsource to build to a price point. Some of us are, but the majority are not.
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If you take into account what taxes youre paying across the board daily then a HM wage hike turns over to be a wash ,the bottom line for the tax man is your earning more to pay more taxes.

It would be intersting to see what tax hikes these states are proposing.
You have to take all taxes into account or how would you really know what you are paying? They reduce your IRS rates. Good. They tack even more onto this, that or the other and you still end up paying for it. Not so good.

I'm not sure if that really matters, do you? This is EXACTLY like the car dealerships. They don't like me because of the way I ask the question. I ask "What check do I write you?". They always ask me "What are you looking to get for your trade in?". If they increase the trade in value, they increase the selling price. Drop selling price, drop trade in. Hence my response is usually "I don't care what you give me for it. You just tell me what the bottom line is. I am not interested in negotiating 2 values. I am a simple man and I want one value.". We negotiate that number and they can play all the juggling games they want. No, I don't want to talk service plans, extended warranty, bikini girls washing my car, etc, etc. Those are done ONE AT A TIME after we buy the car assuming we get that far.
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