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Air&Road · #46 03-16-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Just Google it, it's from some right wing hoax email morons forward to each other. It's a good old fashioned, friggin lie.

You mean like the lie that Slick Barry told when he said that Obamacare would not raise the price of health care or cause anyone to lose it? Yesterday the CBO indicated that 20 million people will end up losing their coverage from their employer due to escalating costs.

You mean like that lie?

Air&Road · #47 03-16-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

The WHOLE caper is a major Charlie Foxtrot over there in that benighted place.

It is unwinnable, there is no clear strategy, mission statement an nor exit strategy.

Time to bring ALL our troops home. EVERY last ONE of them.

And start giving proper help for ALL of them at the VA.

THAT is where real money and sincere effort needs to be spent.

Get OUT! BRING ALL THE TROOPS home * N O W *!!!!!! .

I can't argue with this, but it is still no excuse for commanding a soldier to give up his weopon while in a combat zone.

Air&Road · #48 03-16-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Gee, if only you had been there to tell the commanders in the field how to act. I'm sure you know much more than they do about the situation on the ground, it is obvious we should have either handed guns out to everyone or we should have disarmed the Afghans. I truly regret you are not there to be part of the attempt to do so or the aftermath.

I have never seen more stupidity displayed on one thread. The depth of your hatred utterly blinds you clowns to simple reason. The commanders in the area are dealing with an explosive situation, and you are in your nice comfy home beating your chest over whether or not a metal penis is strapped on these guys at a time when this whole situation is on the verge of exploding. You would rather see people get killed. And you automatically assume this is some act of surrender coming from the White House based on jack$hit. And not a thought that this is simply something being called by the commanders on the ground. Based on what? Utter hatred of Obama. Hoax emails. Amazing. What an utterly ridiculous display of gut wrenching hatred. Despicable. Why don't you be the first to volunteer to take the guns away from the Afghan soldiers ?

And your idea of dealing with an explosive situation is to disarm your own soldiers? Now THAT is the stupidity in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Air&Road · #49 03-16-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

The same thing happened when President Bush visited Afghanistan or Iraq, can't remember witch it was. The left attacked it and the right kept silent...

Can only imagine what it takes to secure high level visitors to a war zone; disarming every single person that's not involved in protecting the person in question seems like a smart move to me.

Got a link?

PaulC · #50 03-16-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

You don't have a single CLUE what it means to ask a soldier to give up his rifle while in a combat zone. Not the least CLUE!

Neither do you, civilian...

LaRondo · #51 03-17-2012, 12:17 AM

See guys, this is what happens when arguing about minuscule elements such as 'clues'.
The thread gets stuck in it's trail.

Jim B. · #52 03-17-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Are you REALLY so naive as to think that this order did not come from the top? Have you ever heard the term "chain of command?"

Have *YOU* ever heard of the Nuremburg principles that were enunciated and set forth at the Nazi war crime tribunals in 1945-1946?

Wikipedia

Principle IV

Principle IV states: "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".

This principle could be paraphrased as follows: "It is not an acceptable excuse to say 'I was just following my superior's orders' ". (emphasis added, Larry).

see:
Nuremberg principles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LaRondo · #53 03-17-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Have *YOU* ever heard of the Nuremburg principles that were enunciated and set forth at the Nazi war crime tribunals in 1945-1946?

Wikipedia

Principle IV

Principle IV states: "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".

This principle could be paraphrased as follows: "It is not an acceptable excuse to say 'I was just following my superior's orders' ". (emphasis added, Larry).

see:
Nuremberg principles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Woah, woah, gotta slow it down now, Jim.
Btw, the judicial order of the Nuremberg Tribunals has so many cracks, OJ Simpson's lawyers would have made another fortune on it.

PaulC · #54 03-17-2012, 12:51 AM

I guess Larry wants us to believe that all orders come from the top - few knew that when Gomer Pyle was told to tuck in his shirt tail at inspection, Sergeant Carter was merely following a Presidential directive issued by Lyndon Johnson....

cmac2012 · #55 03-17-2012, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Just Google it, it's from some right wing hoax email morons forward to each other. It's a good old fashioned, friggin lie.

But you half to admit, sounded a lot like something he might say.

Jim B. · #56 03-17-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

But you half to admit, sounded a lot like something he might say.

The most dangerous untruths are truths moderately distorted. ~Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

A lie gets half way round the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. Sir Winston Churchill.

LaRondo · #57 03-17-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

I guess Larry wants us to believe that all orders come from the top - few knew that when Gomer Pyle was told to tuck in his shirt tail at inspection, Sargent Carter was merely following a Presidential directive issued by Lyndon Johnson....

Post #38. Mr B weaved this into the thread. Who can tell for sure ...

Air&Road · #58 03-18-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

I guess Larry wants us to believe that all orders come from the top - few knew that when Gomer Pyle was told to tuck in his shirt tail at inspection, Sargent Carter was merely following a Presidential directive issued by Lyndon Johnson....

Another post indicating a TOTAL lack of understanding of how such things work in the military. You don't have a single clue!

Of course there are so many

Air&Road · #59 03-18-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

I guess Larry wants us to believe that all orders come from the top - few knew that when Gomer Pyle was told to tuck in his shirt tail at inspection, Sargent Carter was merely following a Presidential directive issued by Lyndon Johnson....

Another post indicating a TOTAL lack of understanding of how such things work in the military. You don't have a single clue!

Of course there are so many of you here that imagine your own intelligence to be about 100 times what it really is that you think you can know about such things. I guess you learn it from osmosis.

If I could only buy you guys for what you're worth and sell you for what you THINK that you're worth..................

PaulC · #60 03-18-2012, 10:40 AM

Larry, how did being a mess hall cook at Ft. Bragg imbue you with so much knowledge about military high command?