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So where are all the people on the batman post that wanted to see evidence that ccw is a good thing?


So my question would be, why are you so worried about full auto weapons? Have you ever looked into what it takes to buy one? Or the price tag on them?

When was the last shooting with a full auto?

Probably the north hollywood shootout yeah? Guys used 1000s of rounds and didnt kill anyone. Probably tells you how useful full auto actually is.

Exactly, 1997.

Full auto is worthless. I for one dont and wont own one because i don wanna pay its food bill, but i see no reason people who follow the rules, go through all the legal means, and can afford it, shouldnt be able to own one

Just out of curiosity how hard is it to take a semi-auto weapon and convert it? Are the parts available on line? IS it a matter of adjusting a few parts on the gun? How hard is it to convert? Since guns are not inspected on any regular basis after purchase would it ever be discovered?

I must be writing in some foreign dialect because people keep arguing with me about things I never intended to say. My point all along is that it is reasonable for the President to talk about regulating automatic weapons. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his reference to AK-47s was meant to refer to the automatic version. It appears as if that assumption was questionable, but I don't think I have said anything inconsistent with anything you are saying here.I'm not anti gun, so I don't know whether you directed that comment at me. I also don't know what a Class 3 firearm is, so you are correct, I have no clue what it takes to get one. Is that something I need to know?

To express and informed opinion, yes.

If you have a machine shop you can do it, if you are accustomed to working with fine tolerances.

Regardless, it is illegal in the USA to modify a firearm to full auto. Merely being suspected of the mod is a death sentence. Ask the Branch Davidians.

An opinion about what?

Look at the bottom of your previous post

If my memory serves, the only opinion I have expressed here is that automatic weapons should be regulated. That's it. I don't think one needs to know what a Class 3 weapon in order to have that opinion. For those who disagree, I would be interested to know how many of you know the precise definition of "Class 3 weapon" without looking it up.

The argument is, people think its as simple as going to the gunstore and buying a "machine gun" or buying an ak47 and making it a full auto with your wifes nail file.

Class 3 is full autos, explosives, short barreled guns , and my personal favorite, suppressors.

You have to pay a 200$ tax , go through extensive backgroung checks and in some cases wait as long as a year for approval.

Yah.


"Hey - hey man.


Gimme yo' LUNCH money !!!!!!!

The acquisition and ownership of a fully automatic AK47, which I believe you said you thought the president felt needed more regulation.

My counter to your arguments with all due respect sir, is how can you have an opinion on a matter you yourself said you know little about?


My opinion and thoughts on this matter are shaped by the ownership of many firearms and the research on purchasing class 3 firearms, ie the short barrel and fully automatic type, along with suppressors.

I can personally say that I myself having a variety of licenses, but not currently owning a class 3 firearm have been threw the FBI and BATFE databases so many times I cannot keep track.

Let me put it real simple. In this country when you go class 3 the BATFE and FBI have your balls in their hands. Not only that but the financial burden is large, AK47's are in the high teens, and quite a few firearms are $100k++, cash only.

Not only that if you are simply suspected of modifying a firearm the black SUV's will show up, and they will come in warrant or not. If you have an illegal firearm you will spend a MINIMUM of 10 years in federal prison, along with giving up all your firearms, which as said above could be worth $100k each.

So what further regulations do you feel should be applied to legal firearms owners like me? Obama doesn't really seem to know.

I never said any such thing. The President said:There is nothing in that statement about "more regulation." My comment, as I have said repeatedly, assumed that he was referring to automatic AK-47s. My position here, and I am amazed that people want to fight me about this, is that automatic weapons should be regulated. Period. I never said anything about what those regulations should be. You and others keep adding crap to my statement. People seem to assume that I am anti-gun and therefore feel the need to argue with me, even when I agree with them. It's very odd, if you ask me.There you go changing my statement again. I said I didn't know what a Class 3 weapon was. If you are claiming that only people who know that technical definition are allowed to have an opinion about whether automatic weapons should be completely unregulated, then I say that you are out to lunch. Were I to go beyond that simple statement, then my relative ignorance would be a problem.Do you agree that there should at least be some regulation of these weapons?