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They want to volunteer their 11,000 trainers to prep an entirely volunteer police force with the goal of putting an armed "police officer" in every school in the country.

But somehow, all this altruism requires that Congress immediately ”appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation.”

Aside from being every shade of red over the stupidity this clown for continuing to blame video games for mass shootings, color me utterly confused over the need for appropriations to support an all-volunteer "police force" patrolling our schools.

That and terrified at the prospect of giving anything that even hints at a nod towards legitimizing a free-range militia tasked with determining what is and isn't a threat.

Getcher new-age militia plan here!

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So you don't believe that the super violent video games that this shooter reportedly spent a lot of time with are a factor in his crime?

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No more a factor than spending time at a gun range with his mother was.

Both are perfectly normal, safe, healthy activities. When participated in by normal, sane, healthy humans.

Banning violent video games makes no more sense than banning guns.

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how about better restrictions on both?

Better age restrictions on certain games maybe?

It seems silly to me that games could have an effect, but on the other hand, the last time I played a video game closely and for extended periods, was super mariokart on a super nintendo. I did have several mariokart dreams related to it.

That was a long time ago, and the technological improvement in game realism and intensity is amazing.

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Age restrictions are a joke - for guns or video games. Parents, friends, etc - are going to make games/guns available to "underage" people based on their own values/beliefs/levels of actual parenting/etc.

I am not "pro-gun" any more than I am "anti-gun" or pro/anti video games. What I am is saddened by the fact that everybody keeps trying to find whys to legislate their way into controlling behavior rather than deal with what is, in my humble opinion, a failure of our society to recognize and effectively deal with the root causes associated with antisocial behavior.

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Exactly. The 3 or so threads on this event have all devolved into "your solution sucks, only MINE will work", and fall into two categories - armed presence on school grounds, or more restrictions on guns - IMHO simplisitic feel good quick fixes that will do NOTHING to prevent this from happening AGAIN - perhaps only reduce the body count.

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Well, you have no argument from me on this. However, i feel there could definitely be a connection between anti-social behavior, entertainment glorification of violence, ready access to weapons, and failure to alter either of the second and third factors in recognition of the first that could be leading to these mass shootings.

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Well stated. I agree that behavior is the root cause, and would like to see resources tasked towards getting assistance to those that need it.

However, this hydra is many headed, and I don't believe a single answer is available. Some of the move to legislate against certain weapons I believe to be long overdue, and that the answer is going to have to be federally mandated. Some states just will not allow any commonsense in their gun laws, which completely undermines the neighboring states which do.
The posts regarding DC and NYC are excellent examples of laws being circumvented with a short drive.

The video games is a little more murky.... Last one I played for any length of time was GTA3. That is definitely a violent game, and I think it has the ability to get into the players head and assist on the road to antisocial behavior.
The answer is to not play so much, but there is no way to do that. I know kids who spend hours every day playing their x-boxes and PS3
How do you reach these parents and get them to take an active role in their children's lives?
If they are too lazy or preoccupied to bother teaching their kids, they will never attend parenting classes or parent meetings at school.

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Agreed - in their quest to protect their interpretation of the 2nd, the NRA is willing to write-off the 1st amendment. Compromise does not exist in the NRA's vocab.

Video games have nothing to do with the first amendment.

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How old was the shooter in Connecticutt? How many years older do you think he would have to be in order to not to have been affected by the video games?

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Lots of articles discuss Lanza's practice of sitting in the basement focusing on violent video games for extended periods, but these are articles that quote people like the plumber who came to his house, his barber, ect. Not sure I trust those sources as how would they really know?

Im not sure such a question on video game limiting would have had an effect on this guy, but still, it seems if you take the accounts we hear at face value, was a huge part of his life. Did it have an effect? who knows, seems like it could have to me though. The only person who could answer that question would be Lanza.

The only way I see age restrictions on video games working is with the help of parents doing the restricting. And the benefit I see to that would be that it allows kids to develop other interests as well in formative years, without necessarily having those interests developed FOR them, as the entertainment industry definitely does.

I don't see it as stopping people from being suggested to, I see it as allowing someone to become more of a complete person first.

I know from personal experience, that as child I was banned from TV or games until homework and chores were finished and only on certain days could I watch or play anyway. I wasn't necessarily banned from running about outside, and other activities. Just those two types of recreation were off limits, the others were frowned upon if I hadn't finished my requirements, but I could sell the idea of a bike ride, or kite flying and homework later to them.
(this may have been based on the fact that I was a butterball, and the parents were worried about me becoming a obese gamer the second I got into them, but there were other good side effects)

Subsequently, gaming culture and TV did not make up much of my childhood, which allowed me to expand other interests first, and by the time I had unrestricted access to gaming culture, I didn't become overly obsessed, and fall deeply into those worlds. I was able to enjoy them normally, and then quickly lost huge interest in them.

The allure of some of these gaming worlds is simply amazing to me considering the march of technology and complication in todays games. Have you ever met anyone who was addicted to World or Warcraft? Thats their reality, its appalling.

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I'm not trying to be argumentative. I am REALLY not. That said, I would recommend that you read a little of what Lt. Col. David Grossman has to say about it. Should be able to google him up very easily.

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+1

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I would bet that this NRA-trained police force would be responsible for more schoolchildren deaths per year through gun accidents and intentional shootings than the mass murderers that they would be employed to deter.