"Your question is stupid and not worth answering"... You're really going to win people over with that. I'm looking for a conversation, you're looking to argue and belittle.

I respectfully disagree with this statement.

We agree to disagree.

I have a question, what would be different in this situation if the mag capacity or weapons style would have been different? He had multiple guns and apparently a lot of ammo.

Time was on his side and he could have reloaded as needed.

The answer to WHY is easy...Why do people want to have cars that go 150mph? Why do people want trucks that are lifted so high that they are at risk of falling over on a turn?

pot vs booze
 

[QUOTE=cmbdiesel;3071150]Geez... what did pot ever do to anybody??:confused:;)
In the big picture, pot is no different than booze and vice versa. I am not sure that pot is addictive whereas booze is or at least can be. Also, I really don't know if excessive long term pot smoking can cause terminal disease whereas booze can. BUT, I really think folks would be better off not using either or just using them every blue moon if that.

I'll take a crack at this.

I'd love to be able to afford an assault rifle, but since they are class 3 and expensive, and I don't have $100k to throw at collecting them right now I settle for semi automatic sporting rifles.

I'd love to ad an M16 and STG44 to my collection, but doing so would cost the better part of $40k.

I buy and collect military rifles because I find them to be very interesting. Its not different than collecting Mercedes, you get into the back story of an FN49 and before you know it you have one, and you just have to have the latest expression of FN's design the Scar while your at it.

Very few things in this day and age of disposable consumer goods are built like firearms. A good rifle like a Stag or Colt AR is built to last for decades, its something you can pass on to your kids. I own and shoot a number of rifles that are approaching 100 years old. Its very impressive that a Swiss gunsmith in 1915 cared enough about his job, and was so good at it that almost 100 years later his rifles bolt still locks up solid, and it still prints a nice group on paper 100 yards out. The gunsmith is long gone, but his creation and the expression of his skill is still with us.

Neither one of those is an assault rifle.

Once in for all, you are Mercedes guys so I expect you to know this!:D

http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog...stg44_7019.jpg

This is an assault rifle, its capable of fully automatic fire.
It costs $20k+, and is an NFA item on a form 3.

http://plaza.ufl.edu/strazz/guns/SBR/SBR6.JPG

This is a semi automatic sporting rifle, with a lot of useless Gucci gear on it, and cheap crap ammo in the mag.
$900 plus gear, and a few permits depending on where you live.

Their is a vast difference between these rifles.

[QUOTE=greazzer;3071505]Pot is much less destructive to mind and body than alcohol. If one were to be illegal, it should be booze. Fortunately, neither will be soon.
There is no toxic level of weed, you cannot smoke yourself to death, a big enough bottle of booze, and you could be dead in an hour.

All things in moderation, especially moderation....;)

Why did you put quotes around that? Who said it?

Well, I agree of course. I think the CA definition is(was?) 3 accessories = assault rifle.

So why do a lot of people have to get killed before it seems to be so upsetting? What's the right number before it's not OK? 20? 10? 1? You tell me when it tarts to bother you?

Besides, you aren't going to ever get rid of guns in America. It's as American as mom and apple pie. Problem is, there's a gun for every man, woman, and child - apparently over 300 million. Hell, why not 500 million?
You see, it doesn't matter at this point. Guns have become such a part of American culture that everyone simply accepts the fact that they are here and they're not going to go away. Ban certain types and there's still going to be 250 million left to go around. Even if not one more was made and no more were introduced into the huge amount already out there, there would still be millions of them. So, don't worry. You will always be able to get one.

However, there are two sides developing which is hardly a surprise. Isn't everything getting split down the middle these days? One side is black and the other side is white. One side R's the other side D's. The new fight is and will be over guns and there's more than just a small potential for the really hard line gunners to go after someone and take them out - they feel that strongly about their rights. Even if any new laws that are passed come watered down and useless as far as makiing any real changes, there will be those who will violently oppose them.

What's wrong with safe/safer storage? What's wrong with having meaningful back ground checks on buyers? What's wrong with having some stuff restricted - you can own it but you have to cross all the T's to get one first? If it's going to make everyone feel safer having a certain limit on mag size why fight that? No one is saying you can't have any of these things - only saying that some sensible limits need to be considered. Why? Why fight this tooth and nail?

This issue is now be played out on so many differant threads..

Gotta call Troll on the OP.

Ya know..stir up the pot...keep crap simmering.

Ah yes, love the smell of simmering crap in the morning.

Nice pics but you left off the MP5 and the UZI, guess 'cause they're not rifles.

Ever heard of a KG9?

What is a 'good reason' for owning any tool? I mean, we can rely on ACE mechanics for autos, electricians for electrical stuff, etc.

There are so many experts around there is no good reason for anybody to own a tool, just hire an expert.

A weapon is a tool.

And a lot of tools own weapons.