"Hunters ed". My wife had that in high school in Colorado in the 70's. Before the liberals got their panties in a wad and killed it...

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Might I suggest you obtain a 1927 Funk and Wagnells dictionary and look up the term "License". Get back to us here on the forum about what you find......


LIcense
LIE
LIAR
LIcentious

notice any similarities?

think of the lives that would be saved if people had to lock up their weapons as a general rule when not in use for specific purposes.

You are putting a lot of faith in your training only assuming it would be you who has the accident in the first place.

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I'd like to see it in all public schools as a requirement. Gun safety programs will not only teach people how to be safe around weapons, it will also teach them the reality of what can happen.

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You're looking for a requirement that cannot be enforced...

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Considering the number of uninsured (1 in 7 back in '11) and unregistered (I can only guess the numbers are similar) vehicles on the road, licensing and insuring gun would probably have a similar outcome. How many repeat drunk drivers with suspended or revoked licenses, involved in yet another accident do we hear about? Laws work for those willing to follow them.

That's not reason enough to do nothing, just that there are always people willing to ignore the laws. I'm sure the problem could be mitigated, but never eliminated no matter how stringent.

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why not?

seems mild to me, get a safe if you have a gun.

The real issue here with the whole gun control debate is that there is zero compromise with 2nd amendment proponents. I don't want to take all your guns (or I know that would never happen), but im having a hard time seeing the bother you would have meeting some better registration and safety restrictions to own them.
You may be extremely confident in your personal ability and in the abilities of your kids, but why should the general public agree with you, especially when the safety issue could potentially affect the general public as well? What have you done to demonstrate how safe and educated you are to the general public?

Im sure mother Lanza thought her kid was trained up nice until he killed her, then shot 30 other people. Not saying something as horrible as that could or would ever happen in your situation, but for every guy in your shoes who is completely confident of his personal and family training, there is always a percentage who are completely wrong, and then other people often get to pay for that mistake.

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How do you propose compliance with usage of the safe?? Simply owning a safe does not guarantee usage of the safe.

The real problem here is control of crazy nutjobs...not guns.

As for registering my firearms...it's none of your damned business what guns I own. There's a paper in NY that has publishes lists gun owners already...what's going to stop the list of those registered, LAWFUL gun owners from being published as well?

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This was offered at the elementary school I went to in Texas. It was a course for 6th graders that you could take if your parents allowed it. I don't know anyone whose parents objected.

Some old guy taught my older brother and he taught me. There were a lot of WW 2 Vet's around at the time, so instructors were easy to find.

We lived out in the country, so guns were something we used to kill snakes and skunks and other creatures that could harm us. They were also handy for putting something on the table.

Guns are tools, not toys, and I was taught to always think of them in that way.

So because a solution is not 100% we should just sit back and throw up our hands and do nothing?

A good first step is to define the problem. A lot of gun owners are even opposed to this, but how can you solve a problem unless you define it? I don't think any action should be taken because it is better than doing nothing. We should figure out what we hope to accomplish and what is standing in our way before we jump on our horse and ride off in all directions.

The first step to reducing drunk driving is education and that is one of the reason accidents due to drunk driving have been going down for the last 30 years. Education changes public perception, and according to some young people I know drunk driving is not a cool thing to do.

Drinking? Yeah, that's still cool. But not the driving while drunk part.

thats been debated to death already on this forum. Easy, if your gun ends up used in a crime, you get charged as well, unless you can demonstrate that the gun was correctly stored.

How fast do you think people would be locking up weapons if they knew they were in for charges as well if it gets misused?

Actually, its exactly my damn business what guns you own if your gun ownership stands to impact my life as well. I see no problem with a published list of lawful gun owners, plenty of people already have their names and addresses in a phone book. Whats the huge difference? Good idea

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Easy now...you'll upset the PETA crowd.

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A friend of mine had a gun safe. And it was a good one.

One day he came home and noticed his back door was unlocked. He also heard a lot of banging coming from inside. So he went to a neighbor's house, used the phone, and called the Cops.

They showed up and arrested several very tired crooks that had been slamming away for a few hours on his safe.

So gun safes work if you use them. When he bought a new one the locksmith he bought it from said any safe can be broken into if you have enough time, but if you don't have one then it is a sure bet that a crook will find them and they will be gone in seconds.

Lock the crazy guy in a safe and leave the guns free.

Loganville mom shoots suspect 5 times, escapes with her 2 children - Atlanta Crime | Examiner.com

See? All you need is a revolver. More than one person will never try to attack you, cept Hitler, lol, redneck haha, ted noguent.