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Botnst · #31 02-21-2013, 10:47 PM

Thank god the president has led the way by putting forward his proposed budget in a timely manner.

The fiscal year began on Oct 1.

MS Fowler · #32 02-22-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

No. They all agreed to it.

"NO" what?
Yes they all AGREED to it. But the idea came from the White House. The President doubled down on it ( while in campaign mode) that he would veto any attempt to soften it. He owns it!
He just doesn't want the criticism for anything bad that might happen due to his policy initiative.
The republicans did NOT create this mess.

SwampYankee · #33 02-22-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

I am thinking that any politician, be it Rep. or Dem., who is serious about the public debt and what we borrow would be super happy to slice off 2.4-ish% from the monster our elected officials have created. Actually, I am wondering why they are not yelling for at least a 10% cut each year.

Because none of them are serious about it? Do I get a cookie?

t walgamuth · #34 02-22-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

"NO" what?
Yes they all AGREED to it. But the idea came from the White House. The President doubled down on it ( while in campaign mode) that he would veto any attempt to soften it. He owns it!
He just doesn't want the criticism for anything bad that might happen due to his policy initiative.
The republicans did NOT create this mess.

So they all agreed to it but any negative results are all the presidents fault?

You are living in a fantasy land.

In my world a deal is fair if both sides agree to it. I guess you don't want the R's to own their own decisions.

MS Fowler · #35 02-22-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

So they all agreed to it but any negative results are all the presidents fault?

You are living in a fantasy land.

In my world a deal is fair if both sides agree to it. I guess you don't want the R's to own their own decisions.

Where did I say that the President gets ALL the fault?
I'd be happy if he ever got the blame for ANYTHING that didn't work out like he promised it would.

He is the one out there trying to disassociate himself from any bad repercussions? If that owning up to his part of responsibility?

Botnst · #36 02-22-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

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In my world a deal is fair if both sides agree to it....

Like the war in Iraq, for example.

hill · #37 02-22-2013, 02:40 PM

The Budget | The White House

Botnst · #38 02-22-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hill

The Budget | The White House

2000 - 2017 budget vs spending, actual and projected.
2000 1,920
2001 86,422
2002 32,445
2003 -317,417
2004 -538,418
2005 -567,961
2006 -493,611
2007 -434,494
2008 -342,153
2009 -641,848
2010 -1,549,681
2011 -1,370,494
2012 -1,366,777
2013 -1,393,922
2014 -944,742
2015 -695,047
2016 -628,951
2017 -634,411

anghrist · #39 02-22-2013, 08:55 PM

I'm sorry.

This just concerns me, since I am one of many who could be absorbing a 20% pay cut.

I know that's nowhere near what many of our workers have suffered during our nation's fruitbasket-turnover economy of the last few years, but it is a significant chunk of change.

I'm not worried about placing blame... I just want to find/fix the problem and get on with business.

MTUpower · #40 02-22-2013, 11:18 PM

"sequestration would reduce federal outlays by $44 billion this year, or 1.2 percent of the $3.6 trillion federal budget, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office."

from the Palm Beach Post.

MTUpower · #41 02-22-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Like the war in Iraq, for example.

Shsss- Tom doesn't want to hear that; no one on the left does.

roflwaffle · #42 02-22-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

We don't need pyramids of any sort. It's an illusion to think that government programs produce jobs. They do not. Profit produces jobs. Profit comes from improving efficiencies. People who make money hire people by creating wealth. That's where jobs come from.

I'm trying to think of a government example of improving efficiency. Maybe SOCOM over regular forces? But we don't use them for profit. It is so last century.

Well, yes and no. Government's and profits in and of themselves don't produce jobs. Hiring people produces jobs.

To put it another way, in a perfectly capitalist economy, there would be perfect/pure competition and no profit.

Asserting that profits somehow produce jobs is ridiculous. Profits mean that some of an entity's revenue isn't going to pay for someone's employment.

engatwork · #43 02-23-2013, 07:52 AM

I was watching something on teebee the other night and they pointed out that in regards to one of the agencies the cuts would only amount to 2% of their total budget.

neumann · #44 02-23-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Like the war in Iraq, for example.

Beat me to the punch with your reply!!!! Cannot wait to hear the responses on that one.

MS Fowler · #45 02-23-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by neumann

Beat me to the punch with your reply!!!! Cannot wait to hear the responses on that one.

There will be no answer--too busy blaming Republicans.
Why is it that behavior that would be opposed if the opposition did it, is perfectly acceptable when done by those with whom you agree? Is morality all relative?