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What we called those caps was nowhere NEAR as clean as "pisser cap."

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Old 05-20-2013, 03:07 PM
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I'm ever grateful to the Americans and especially the Canadians that liberated my home town and had many changes to thank them in the past.

But please lets not forget that it was the "greatest generation" that gave us the hippies, no one is perfect.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:57 PM
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What's wrong with Hippies?

Its the Yippies you gotta watch out for.
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My father who has left now like so many other world war two vets that have passed away. Their ranks are really thinning down. Served four years but seldom mentioned much about it. This I suspect was typical.

The Italian campain and later into northern europe. That war changed many men in profound ways.
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My moms upbringing was very unpleasant because of the mental scars WW2 left on my grandpa.
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I'm reminded that most of the greatest generation are depression era babies. Most of the them are clinically depressed in one form or another. Whether any of us wants to admit it or not, people tend to come back from a war depressed. Most of them should have received therapy/counseling years ago.......but their government forgot to include therapy or counseling in their enlistment package.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:53 AM
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Airborne Beer

Question for the Army guys here:
Ever heard of Airborne Beer?

I'd never heard about it until the other day when I stumbled on a video of one WW2 Paratrooper, who happened to teach at my high school back in the day. I hand the distinct pleasure of meeting Vince Speranza last fall at my 50th HS reunion.
Here's the Airborne Beer Story by the PFC who created the moment in Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge
WW II Veteran Stories - Vince Speranza - YouTube

It's Memorial Day. Remember the Fallen.....

BASTOGNE BELGIUM -- The Machine Gun Kid: A WWII Veteran Reflects on the Siege of Bastogne! - YouTube
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My adopted Father cried and begged his father to enlist in the Navy during WW2.He was trained to be a gunners mate.But as all Black men at that time the Navy used them as porters or mules.All during the war as a mule,they hand loaded ammunition to the ships.Then had to sleep on the decks of ships,because only white sailors slept below.
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DUH!!!!! The Pepsi Generation.
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My dad and all my uncles served in WW2 and Korea. I believe they were all, to a man, clinically depressed. They persevered however, leading productive lives in a sort of resigned, quiet, solitary sadness.
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My mom and dad were both born in the early twenties. My dad's dad was a rancher who owned his land free and clear and made it through the depression relatively well. My mom was the second oldest of fourteen and daughter of a share cropper. They had a tough life, but managed to have a few bales of cotton to sell in the fall. Took the whole family working hard to make it happen. I think they had a love and respect for each other that led to success for most of them. They were a happy and well balanced family.

My dad's family also had their act together, but did not deal with the extreme challenges of my moms family. They all did very well in life.

My mom had fourteen brothers and sisters and my dad had six. There were WWII sailors and soldiers from both families. With one exception, all of them seemed to deal with it well or they were putting on a heck of an act. The one who didn't wasn't even a soldier, but was a merchant marine and spent a long time in a life boat after a u boat took the ship out from under him? According to the family, he had always been a wild child anyway.

I think that in my family at least, the depression toughened them, making WWII less traumatic in some ways.

People have always had problems, but I think the folks of that generation were better able to deal with things on their own. They were anything but spoiled. The fact that most people of that generation grew up knowing full well what hard physical labor was about, prepared them to some extent for fighting a war. If God forbid, we were to have to do the same thing today, I think it would be quite different.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:39 PM
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The guys like my father lived through really diversified changing times and experiences. My generation has not in my opinion. The times have changed but the many diversified things have not occurred.

Although the Vietnam experience occurred for many Americans in my period. . The veterans seem to have had an even harder time with the experiences they had.

I too believe the war experience changed my father forever in many ways. They usually talked little about it because I believe in general they could not come totally to grips with it themselves.

It is strange how little I know of my fathers experiences in the second war period. Now that he is long gone I will never know any more. He refused many battlefield promotions. I think I know why today. Who in their right mind wants to feel responsible for the death of even more men you lead.

The Dutch especially thanked them for their efforts. My dad told me he killed Dutch civilians because in the distance they were moving some equipment outside a barn as they advanced. It was getting near the end of the war.

He thought it was an 88 being set up so he ordered fire from the tanks on it . I know he always felt bad about many things. He fought a lot in Italy and northern Europe. .It certainly left many mental scars.

I had the honor of reading some of the letters he sent home during those war years after he died. You could see the cumulative effect the war was having on him.

Both times he was wounded the letters were pretty profound as he recovered. He was an armour specialist and fought against superior German equipment.

They fought with the weaker gun on the Sherman tanks. Never got the firefly version with the far more lethal cannon. I can see today how this might effect any individual. The german army was no pushover and was well experienced .

My father was much smarter than his son in many ways. Yet the scars limited his abilities in some fashions after the war. For example even the malaria he contracted had residual effects for years.

Killing people and being efficient about it so you survive took it's toll. The males in our family can kill but it is extremely difficult for us as it is for many. He like many had to deal with that. I do not know if I could. Thankfully I never have had to.

Anyways he got home and raised a family. Plus dad and mother were together till the end. He really was a kind and thoughtful good person. Looking back now I have no issues with him having being my father.


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