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MTI 07-04-2013 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3170265)
That would be against US law. Animals do not have the right to consent and that would fall under animal cruelty or abuse.
What is it with sex with animals and social conservatives? It's the first thing on their minds it seems.

davidmash 07-04-2013 12:17 PM
If I had to guess I would go with pent up sexual frustration and aggression.

davidmash 07-04-2013 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3170354)
So you want me to vote for those with which I disagree? Sorry, this is quite an absurd request.
Would you vote for someone who wished to ban freedom of speech for the KKK?

Air&Road 07-04-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3170405)
As I have asked before and you deftly avoided, what if you agree with most of what this candidate says but one of the things you disagree with is that he wants to bring back segregation? Sure, you agree with him more than the other guy but this guy wants to deprive someone of his rights. Would that make it ok to vote for him and say "Because society didn't give me enough choices, I had to vote for him and he happened to deprive a group that I don't like so life is good."?
Quite an absurd analogy, you can do better than that.

aklim 07-04-2013 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3170581)
Quite an absurd analogy, you can do better than that.
I think that you are not so stupid you cannot understand the principle so perhaps the question is too painful for you. So please, stop acting dumb and indignant and simply answer the question ON PRINCIPLE.

davidmash 07-04-2013 08:21 PM
He has dodged similar questions from myself Kerry and numerous others. Larry cannot answer the questions because that will reveal his true beliefs. By not answering he can dodge and cower in the darkness so he can play the victim.

Getting a straight answer out of Larry is like trying to nail down water. Just not going to happen.

aklim 07-04-2013 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3170593)
He has dodged similar questions from myself Kerry and numerous others. Larry cannot answer the questions because that will reveal his true beliefs. By not answering he can dodge and cower in the darkness so he can play the victim.

Getting a straight answer out of Larry is like trying to nail down water. Just not going to happen.
Hopefully, that is so. The other way is that he is adept at lying to himself. I always believe that you can lie to anyone you want but NEVER lie to yourself. If you read what he says, it does sound so nice and reasonable till you ask specific questions, at which point the dodges and what not start to pop up.

kerry 07-04-2013 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3170620)
NEVER lie to yourself. .
A very good rule.


There is another way to interpret Larry's lack of principled responses: Despite his commitment to law and order, Larry's moral values aren't rooted in reason but are a set of emotional responses to life with no cohesive order. Think of it as a set of moral emotions associated with white gospel music.

Benz Dr. 07-06-2013 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3170468)
Would you vote for someone who wished to ban freedom of speech for the KKK?

I believe that in Canada there is a provision for hate crimes. You can belong to any group you want but you can't say things that are hateful. Saying the holocost didn't happen would be considered a hate crime here. We also believe in freedom of speech but with that freedom comes obligations. I'm not a laywer so I'm sure there's more to it than this.

aklim 07-06-2013 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Benz Dr. (Post 3171104)
I believe that in Canada there is a provision for hate crimes. You can belong to any group you want but you can't say things that are hateful. Saying the holocost didn't happen would be considered a hate crime here. We also believe in freedom of speech but with that freedom comes obligations. I'm not a laywer so I'm sure there's more to it than this.
That also sounds like "You can say anything you want as long as I agree with it.".

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3169754)
I can not honestly respond to that without drawing an infraction.
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cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3170218)
Whether you believe the Bible to be true is impertinent. The question was asked of me, WHY I believe what I do. I have faith and you have, well I'm not sure what, but whatever it is, you also have the right to your belief or lack of belief. I hope you agree that I also have a right to mine.
Belief in the bible is impertinent??? :laugh::laugh: PRICELESS!!!!

aklim 07-06-2013 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171153)
Belief in the bible is impertinent??? :laugh::laugh: PRICELESS!!!!
Religion of any stripe is impertinent anyways.

Benz Dr. 07-06-2013 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3171139)
That also sounds like "You can say anything you want as long as I agree with it.".
No, I don't think so. It's far more complicated than that. Besides, it's rarely used.

aklim 07-06-2013 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz Dr. (Post 3171264)
No, I don't think so. It's far more complicated than that. Besides, it's rarely used.
How is it more complicated? What has the rarity got to do with the principle?


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