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Old 07-11-2013, 11:49 AM
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Someone is in Jail for Heroin. Now what?

I have this friend of a friend who got busted for heroin possession in NC. Mug shot attached. I think it is her first offense. Also, I don't think she had any intention to sell it if that matters at all (not smart enough-though you don't have to be smart either--the smart thing to do is to not do it at all but that's a different discussion).

So will someone familiar with how all this works tell me what the process is from this point on? how long will this go on? also, i imagine it to be expensive (she is broke).

I'm not really familiar with how this section of the legal system works.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:05 PM
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I'm sorry Speed, but I can't let that one go by.


Wishing a painful death to someone for doing their job is pretty much over the line. I don't know what cop has wronged you in the past, but you need to do some soul searching regarding your problem with cops.
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Air&Road: If they want people to give a crap about them and not wish them the worst, they should go find a real job, not one that's comprised of harassing the public. Oh yeah, and coming from the person who wants to fry drug users, this is pretty rich.

Illegal drug use seems to be quite common in the world of badges and guns...
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/steroid-use-among-law-enforcement-it-s-not-taken-as/article_94141578-04b4-5bd7-87d1-3aefc2962433.html
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Air&Road: If they want people to give a crap about them and not wish them the worst, they should go find a real job, not one that's comprised of harassing the public. Oh yeah, and coming from the person who wants to fry drug users, this is pretty rich.

You must be having trouble with your reading comprehension today. Go back and reread my posts. I propose frying the drug dealing kingpins, not the users.

Do you think that ALL cops are as you describe? Every, single one of them?
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You must be having trouble with your reading comprehension today. Go back and reread my posts. I propose frying the drug dealing kingpins, not the users.

Do you think that ALL cops are as you describe? Every, single one of them?
You're wasting your time.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:06 PM
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You must be having trouble with your reading comprehension today. Go back and reread my posts. I propose frying the drug dealing kingpins, not the users.

Do you think that ALL cops are as you describe? Every, single one of them?
It's part of a ring. Fry every kingpin you can but as long as there are users, somebody will step in. Vegas has no shortage of people "with a system".

Until Mr Tough Talker needs them, they are.
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Air&Road: If they want people to give a crap about them and not wish them the worst, they should go find a real job, not one that's comprised of harassing the public. Oh yeah, and coming from the person who wants to fry drug users, this is pretty rich.

Illegal drug use seems to be quite common in the world of badges and guns...
Steroid use among law enforcement: 'It
Not sure what you said in the post that Larry responded to (it's been deleted apparently) and I hate to agree with Larry but dang dude, you do have a lot of hatred for police.

Drug use is not all victimless crime as hard core librarians want to have it. The world of coke and heroin has some weird shyte mixed in. I've gotten to know a young lady in the last year, probably should avoid her like the plague but she's quite bright and likable in many regards - the problem is she has given her life over to heroin. You have to witness it up close to believe it.

She's about 26 now, a well educated Jewish girl, has been working as a prostitute for a while and recently had a baby with her pimp. She speaks glowingly of 'this perfect magic being' but she only spottily cares for her (her mother has the burden) much of the time she is still partying with her cadre.

The war on drugs is sorta weird - pot especially - but heroin is a strange animal. China had a major taste of the degradation that opium products can bring to a society back when the Brits were getting rich selling it to them.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:07 AM
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Not sure what you said in the post that Larry responded to (it's been deleted apparently) and I hate to agree with Larry but dang dude, you do have a lot of hatred for police.

Drug use is not all victimless crime as hard core librarians want to have it. The world of coke and heroin has some weird shyte mixed in. I've gotten to know a young lady in the last year, probably should avoid her like the plague but she's quite bright and likable in many regards - the problem is she has given her life over to heroin. You have to witness it up close to believe it.
Not just the cops. Just a the usual posturing until push comes to shove. Probably a failed writer for the Wrestling Federation.

The problem I see with drug use is that while it is your body, someone else would be liable for the tab so it becomes difficult to define what exactly the interest I have in your affair. If your drug use simply let you die quietly, worst case scenario is we send a truck over to cart your carcass to the dump site. However, when I can be liable for your attempted rehab or problems as the drug causes, it puts it into a grey area.
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The problem I see with drug use is that while it is your body, someone else would be liable for the tab so it becomes difficult to define what exactly the interest I have in your affair. If your drug use simply let you die quietly, worst case scenario is we send a truck over to cart your carcass to the dump site. However, when I can be liable for your attempted rehab or problems as the drug causes, it puts it into a grey area.
Big gulp nanny state?

Sounds like we're back to government enforced personal responsibility.

So, if money is the hang up, maybe it's time to run the numbers...
Does the caring for the addicts cost as much as the entire legal system (cops, lawyers, judges, prisons, guards, parole officers.....)
I think you may be surprised.

http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/04-01_REP_MDTreatmentorIncarceration_AC-DP.pdf

feel free to google up your own sources too
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I'm sorry Speed, but I can't let that one go by.


Wishing a painful death to someone for doing their job is pretty much over the line. I don't know what cop has wronged you in the past, but you need to do some soul searching regarding your problem with cops.
Where did this come from???
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Where did this come from???
His usual Macho Man talk only to be edited and erased after he gets off from it.
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His usual Macho Man talk only to be edited and erased after he gets off from it.
I'm guessing spdrun deleted the post Larry responded to or Mods did.

BTW Aklim, that was 8 posts in a row from you. Might be a new record.
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I'm guessing spdrun deleted the post Larry responded to or Mods did.

BTW Aklim, that was 8 posts in a row from you. Might be a new record.
Knowing him, probably self deleted.

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(she is broke).

I'm not really familiar with how this section of the legal system works.

Like everything else in this world, you get what you pay for. She'll be assigned a legal aid attorney who will barely represent her interests and won't make any kind of decent argument for leniency. She's at the mercy of the court system............not a good thing under any circumstances.

If she had the funds for a decent attorney, her prospects improve dramatically. He frames the case for the prosecutor/judge to show her in the best possible light and, hopefully, gets a much reduced (maybe suspended???) sentence.
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Like everything else in this world, you get what you pay for. She'll be assigned a legal aid attorney who will barely represent her interests and won't make any kind of decent argument for leniency. She's at the mercy of the court system............not a good thing under any circumstances.

If she had the funds for a decent attorney, her prospects improve dramatically. He frames the case for the prosecutor/judge to show her in the best possible light and, hopefully, gets a much reduced (maybe suspended???) sentence.
legal aid attorney? like the guy in "My Cousin Vinny"? I would be scared
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