Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3176241)

Racist?

I heard ( on the radio while driving--you confirm or deny) that Zimmerman took a black girl to his HS prom, and that he lives in a multi-racial community where his black neighbors speak well of him.

The only "evidence" of a racial nature is that Z shot a young black man. If you see than as racial, then to you it is.

How many hundreds of young black men die anonymously in big cities like Chicago, DC, Baltimore, LA and no one raises any storm of protest?
The answer is easy--the race-hustlers can't get any face time on these stories.

Originally Posted by ruchase (Post 3176193)

The scenario you describe bears very little resemblence to TM & GZ. Fact is TM was walking along casually when GZ spotted him and figured he looked "suspicious". Suspicious has a very different meaning for different folks.

We know from GZ's 911 call that he was under the impression that TM was up to no good; however, he had no factual basis to make that assertion. It was purely based on his instincts, which were clearly wrong. Had GZ been a real cop, he might've known he would've had to have probable cause to stop/question an individual; however, we know from the events that night that GZ indeed profiled TM, and concluded simply based on TM's physical appearance that he was a hoodlum.

Part of living in a free society is being able to walk without the fear of being harassed simply for how you look. Had someone actually witnessed TM do something illegal, then GZ (and any LEO) would have every reason to follow him and possbly search/arrest him.

Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3176059)

Perhaps reality.

Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3176273)

Cop doesn't have to have PC to question or stop an individual. He needs PC to search him or his vehicle.

Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 3176273)

Cop doesn't have to have PC to question or stop an individual. He needs PC to search him or his vehicle.

Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 3176288)

Someones gonna have a big ole scary black gun waiting -ready to PoP the melon of this Filthy Racist Pig.
http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/up...ty-300x224.jpg

Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 3176288)

Someones gonna have a big ole scary black gun waiting -ready to PoP the melon of this Filthy Racist Pig.
http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/up...ty-300x224.jpg

Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3176290)

Uhh, Lee Harvey, before you have to reach out to Dog the Bounty Hunter for a bail bond, why don't you delete this post?

Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3176292)

This speaks more about you then Z.

Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3176296)

If he got his old job back writing children's books, he wouldn't have time for such writings..

Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 3176288)

Someones gonna have a big ole scary black gun waiting -ready to PoP the melon of this Filthy Racist Pig.
http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/up...ty-300x224.jpg

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3176225)

well, the police believed him, do you beleive them?

Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 3176227)

Some people are more prone to fear than others. The part you ignore in that line of thought is: were his fears rational, at any point in the drama? I submit that they were not. His fear led him to create a confrontation, one in which he had deadly force on his person.

I gotta give it to spd: "He brought a gun to a fistfight."

One major unknown in this drama, surely not a point we could count on GZ to be forthcoming about, is: did GZ flash his gun at TM at any point? One of those, "watch out, I'm armed, you best comply with my instructions until police get here" ? TM could well have had more cause to be in fear of his life. A man not a policeman was following him and (possibly) displayed a gun, certainly was toting one. GZ initiated this drama and played the insecure, naïve fool throughout it.



A weak person with unstable mind might be fearful that the large man passing him on the street was approaching to do harm and pull out his portable manliness and shoot him with it. GZ wanted to be tough but couldn't pull it off with MMA training. Mssrs. Smith and Wesson did the trick, however.