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MS Fowler 06-30-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3351652)
Then he needs a good real estate agent to find him a nicer place to live.

Why?
Are Jerks not allowed in Fla?, or does he lose the right to live where he chooses simply because he is a jerk? That would put a LOT of people in the homeless shelters.

Botnst 06-30-2014 10:12 PM

Most of O.D. included…..

Jim B. 06-30-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3351710)
Why?
Are Jerks not allowed in Fla?, or does he lose the right to live where he chooses simply because he is a jerk? That would put a LOT of people in the homeless shelters.

Sounds fine and dandy to me! :D

Jim B. 06-30-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3351647)
Zimmerman being a jerk is not related to his guilt or lack of guilt in a legal matter.

OJ is another JERK; but legally not guilty.

Actually that DOES matter in a SUBLIMINAL sense when guilt or innocence is being determined, when it's by a Judge or a Jury, though naturally it is NEVER admitted openly.

Having been behind the scenes in Courtroom admin for 20+ years gives me the right to say that with a degree of certainty.


In fact, on my very first day at work the Judge hearing a new murder case about to begin commented right before he went into court on the first day of the trial;

Actually he *scoffed*

"That guy would actually like to dig her up and kill her again!"


A bon mot like that, out of the mouth of a Judge, is pretty shocking.

Even if it was said quietly, 29 years ago, is something you'd probably remember even now if it was the first thing you heard on he beginning of your first day at work.

Kinda sets the tone for what you are going to be in for.

Nome sayin'?

P.C. 06-30-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3351710)
Why?
Are Jerks not allowed in Fla?, or does he lose the right to live where he chooses simply because he is a jerk? That would put a LOT of people in the homeless shelters.

I don't want to let all of the air out of your tires, but Mr. Simpson is currently a resident of Nevada.

Jim B. 06-30-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3351771)
I don't want to let all of the air out of your tires, but Mr. Simpson is currently a resident of Nevada.

(though fortunately for me, in a somewhat more downscale Nevada neighborhood than where I can be found)

P.C. 06-30-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3351775)
(though fortunately for me, in a somewhat more downscale Nevada neighborhood than where I can be found)

Which is why he needs a good realtor...

Botnst 07-01-2014 07:40 AM

Nothing to lose your head over.

MS Fowler 07-01-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3351765)
Actually that DOES matter in a SUBLIMINAL sense when guilt or innocence is being determined, when it's by a Judge or a Jury, though naturally it is NEVER admitted openly.

Having been behind the scenes in Courtroom admin for 20+ years gives me the right to say that with a degree of certainty.


In fact, on my very first day at work the Judge hearing a new murder case about to begin commented right before he went into court on the first day of the trial;

Actually he *scoffed*

"That guy would actually like to dig her up and kill her again!"


A bon mot like that, out of the mouth of a Judge, is pretty shocking.

Even if it was said quietly, 29 years ago, is something you'd probably remember even now if it was the first thing you heard on he beginning of your first day at work.

Kinda sets the tone for what you are going to be in for.

Nome sayin'?

Yes, I think I would be shocked to hear a Judge utter something like that before the trial began. That's not saying I doubt your story; I just find it shocking.

I wonder....do "jerks" get off simply by being jerks, or do they get harsher treatment? How did that play out in Zim's case?

HuskyMan 07-01-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3352043)
Yes, I think I would be shocked to hear a Judge utter something like that before the trial began. That's not saying I doubt your story; I just find it shocking.

I wonder....do "jerks" get off simply by being jerks, or do they get harsher treatment? How did that play out in Zim's case?

No matter what anyone says, one's public image plays into EVERYTHING, even a court trial. The media machine began almost immediately following the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman incident. Think about it for a moment, EVERYTHING we heard about the story came to us via talking head radio and talking head television. The talking heads newscasters color every news story that crosses their desk. He**, there are documented cases where the media actually created such conflict WAR broke out between nations and countries. Reason #88 why I have NO use for the media. Besides, I worked for a major television station long enough to slowly learn how they really work.........and believe me, they are up to no good.

Judges are people wrapped with all the emotions, beliefs and convictions the rest of us come with. So, of course they have opinions about cases which may play into their decisions. They watch the news too......

MS Fowler 07-01-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3352063)
No matter what anyone says, one's public image plays into EVERYTHING, even a court trial. The media machine began almost immediately following the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman incident. Think about it for a moment, EVERYTHING we heard about the story came to us via talking head radio and talking head television. The talking heads newscasters color every news story that crosses their desk. He**, there are documented cases where the media actually created such conflict WAR broke out between nations and countries. Reason #88 why I have NO use for the media. Besides, I worked for a major television station long enough to slowly learn how they really work.........and believe me, they are up to no good.

Judges are people wrapped with all the emotions, beliefs and convictions the rest of us come with. So, of course they have opinions about cases which may play into their decisions. They watch the news too......

All that may be true, but....
We were all taught that justice is blind. As we grew up, we realized it wasn't quite blind. Nevertheless, I am surprised when a Judge expresses an opinion before hearing the case. Now, it may be that this Judge had previous contact with the accused--in Jim's case. That would make his comment understandable. I would still hope he can suspend his personal judgments and hear the case impartially.

Botnst 07-01-2014 05:26 PM

I prefer not to see sausage being made. I know what happens, but "ick".

cmbdiesel 07-01-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3352063)
No matter what anyone says, one's public image plays into EVERYTHING, even a court trial. The media machine began almost immediately following the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman incident. Think about it for a moment, EVERYTHING we heard about the story came to us via talking head radio and talking head television. The talking heads newscasters color every news story that crosses their desk. He**, there are documented cases where the media actually created such conflict WAR broke out between nations and countries. Reason #88 why I have NO use for the media. Besides, I worked for a major television station long enough to slowly learn how they really work.........and believe me, they are up to no good.

Judges are people wrapped with all the emotions, beliefs and convictions the rest of us come with. So, of course they have opinions about cases which may play into their decisions. They watch the news too......

Is that what your friend's nephew's third cousin, who lives in the trailer park, heard from the guy across the street who's buddy got sent to the hoosegow by that rotten prick of a judge?

Not buying the 'major television' station thingee....

cmbdiesel 07-01-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3351710)
Why?
Are Jerks not allowed in Fla?, or does he lose the right to live where he chooses simply because he is a jerk? That would put a LOT of people in the homeless shelters.

I'm sorry your boy Zim is a jerk.... try not to take it so hard....

HuskyMan 07-01-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3352228)
I'm sorry your boy Zim is a jerk.... try not to take it so hard....

Really? Does anyone really care what you think about anything?

MS Fowler 07-02-2014 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3352228)
I'm sorry your boy Zim is a jerk.... try not to take it so hard....

Why do you have to be so insulting?

Zimm is not now, now ever was "my boy"?

His case was a matter of legal proof-- of which, the jury decided there was none. I side with the legal system that requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You may wish for a lesser requirement---until it affects you, then you would scream like a baby.

The fact that he was, and is a jerk does NOT make him guilty of murder. Sorry you were manipulated by edited and biased "news" accounts.

Try to be more discerning and less emotion in your future judgments.

t walgamuth 07-02-2014 06:50 AM

Since this was a thread I started I am requesting it be closed. Nothing productive happening now.

MS Fowler 07-02-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3352372)
Since this was a thread I started I am requesting it be closed. Nothing productive happening now.

It IS rather old "news".

HuskyMan 07-02-2014 09:35 AM

We could all dissect the Zimmerman trial until the end of time; food for thought: IMHO, his legal team played a major role in his acquittal. They were on their game BIG TIME. Courtroom Warriors!


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