buncha dang ol' socialists

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True. We spent a winter in Vermont and still call it the US experiment in communism.

Our version of the State Motto: Arrive on vacation, leave on probation. Borrowed from people we met there. Everyone we met seemed to be either state employees or their customers. They get people in "The System" and don't let them go.

You probably won't hear much about the fight but I promise you that this won't be pretty. The only way I see a single payer system is if it is privatized. Might be that Wallstreet can properly drain the system without privatization. Promises to be interesting. Glad I'm not there.

"45,000 Americans die every single year because they cannot afford treatment, are you ready for that? That is 15 times the amount of people that died during the September 11, 2001, attacks, or perhaps for you Righty’s out there you would rather see it put this way, 11,250 times the amount of people that died in the Benghazi attack. That equals 5 Americans that die every hour, of every day, of every year because of a preventable illness that was not taken care of due to lack of access and means."

Yet VT also has one of the lowest crime rates in the country, despite unrestricted carry laws (don't even need a permit to carry a pistol). Unemployment is something like 4.5%, much lower than the rest of the country. Good universities. Good schools on average. High political representation per capita. Lots of "crunchy" hippie ladies around Burlington, which I find lovely.

I think I'm moving to VT eventually if I stay in the US! Socialism done right is a great thing.

Where we were you could go almost anywhere on a dirt road or on a snowmobile. It is a cool place but the winters are too long. You gotta like winter activity to live there. I could be happy there.

If you are thinking of living in Vermont, Canada might also be an option. Ottawa is pretty great as cities go.

Pistols are too heavy to carry. I don't even like carrying keys or change. Permits are easy, I have one and rarely use it. I am kinda fond of shotguns these days.

I love winter -- I'm not a snow-phobic ladyboy, and I am an avid skier If I'm to move out of the country, it would likely be to Berlin, not Canada, since as a dual citizen I can legally live/work anywhere in the EU without any pesky application process.

I do love Montreal, though. It also has the advantage of being rabidly non-Anglo, and thus being less poisoned by the Anglo/Dumberican media than the rest of the US and Canada.

Additional costs to the taxpayer of Vermont will depend on many things. Impossible to tell at this point how it will be structured. Lesser overall cost is the goal though.

Other that in my opinion private insurance for profit and control will not be involved at all. All the people in the state covered should require about 3/4 of the old cost initially is not a bad guess.

Once the general health condition of the state is caught up for everyone it should decline to about half the cost. I was considering the possible lack of enough medical personal to meet the initial rush of needs. Phasing the system in because of work load may be the largest issue.

New additional doctors to the state may not be a problem. Some of them have to be totally fed up with external forces that semi control their practices today. Under universal care a doctor cannot just uproot and go to the state. He or she has to wait for a billing number to be available.

Usually this is controlled by having assigned billing numbers for any doctors position in universal care systems. You need one to bill the system. Vermont has to be smart enough to keep health for profit companies out of the loop or it would fail.

Anyways I suspect they will implement the real deal. It would be politically and practically impossible to do otherwise for state politics.

And better one billing number than ten billing numbers for different private insurance companies...