JP, I will be pleased to send you the first $100.00 towards that worthwhile endeavor.

pm me your address.

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Jim, I truly appreciate the sentiment and offer...but we will be turning it down for now. The remaining $100,000 will be extremely difficult to come by. While she is extremely honored by the offer from the school, she has decided to locate another school that will offer her the same education for less money. State schools fit the bill, as well as other public centers of education.

She is a well grounded young lady that understands and appreciates the value of a dollar.

This school is one of the first of many that will offer her scholarships over the next couple of months prior to her graduation. As they come in, we'll be better armed with enough knowledge for her to pick.

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Im not going to even point out what the purpose of higher education is, we all should know.

Great that she is doing so well. You might ask her to call several major firms HR section and ask them truly how important where the degree came from as opposed to not having one.

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"If you dont have time to do it safely, you dont have time to do it"

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

I am satisfied about how three of our four daughters turned out over time. Must be their mothers genes. At the same time I have to wonder if they did not overachieve. I am also very glad to hear your daughter is coming along well.

Our daughters have exceeded reasonable expectations. Actually the fourth and last one is not doing bad in general. Just is not running as hard as the other three did. She may be the happiest one though as well. In a way I can brag about her excellent personality and emotional being.

What may trouble me a little is what exceeding reasonable expectations requires. In one case one daughter seems too ruthless to me. At the same time she turned down the opportunity to possibly run a very large American corporation.

This after spending years on planes and restructuring the company basically. They must have fifty thousand employees or more. Instead she asked for and got a situation in the corporation that was far less stressfull so maybe she is truly smart. Having no children unfortunately was the requirement in their minds of the two middle girls.

At my advanced age it is hard to determine what is really important in life. There are so many factors to weigh. This current education with a high debt loading on graduation raised many questions in my mind originally. In a more secure job environment world it may have been more justified.

Times have changed so much. Our oldest daughter approaching fifty now got through four years with no debt loading and not that much financial burden or load to us. The middle two said they did not need or want it and time has proven them right as far as earning money goes.

As stated early on it must be their mothers genes that enables them. She is extremely bright but never had the opportunities they have had. I tend to be a little more baffled than anything else at the daughters outcomes so far.

If I had it to do over again I think I would have stressed helping people more to the girls. Rather than teaching them fundamental economics over the supper table. I only did this because we had all girls and it was a mans world plus the general education system left out too much what to me where signifigant gaps in knowledge. Since I lived or was submerged in an estrogen environment for quite a few years may have had something to do with it as well.

To be fair I never had any indications we were raising a gang of world beaters. I can not brag about them as any contribution I have made to their lives that made this much difference is unknown to me. Odds tell me what has happened is unusual. So I will probably remain in my baffled condition.

Our youngest grandson is truly gifted I know. I can only hope I live long enough to see him help people in some sane way. If he goes off the rails at some point it will be too bad. Being only ten I will probably never see what he does. So far the oldest two grandsons of the first daughter seem to be doing well. Well to me is being happy and well adjusted or balanced more than anything.

North America is in almost desparate need of a free advanced educational system for those bright minds that are well balanced. Too many of those young people live in situations where this is not available in a reasonable way.

It would be considered a sane investment in the future to a simple person like myself. Giving back a little for tomorrow should not be objectionable for those that have been treated well by the system over the years.

Congratulations on your daughter's success! Sounds like she will be a big success in whatever she decides to do. Although being debt free is a very good goal, I would encourage her to take on the most rigorous course of study she is capable of. A strong degree is the cost of admission to the best employment opportunities.

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Congrats, Jon! Sounds like she's got a great head on her shoulder. I have three buddies who went to "lowly" CT State schools who are doing VERY well for themselves in the corporate world. I also have friends who, 10-15 years later, are still digging themselves out of that initial hole. I suppose it's all what people are comfortable with carrying (I sure wouldn't be).

While I suspect 3 out of my 4 will be college material, I won't discourage them from the trade school route if it's something they really want to do.

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Very true.

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On top of what happened two days ago, she went to district competitions for DECA yesterday, and came back with a 3rd place trophy for her work in Accounting Applications. This advances her to state level competition in Hershey in February. State level will be a 3 day event, and more difficult. She said that now she knows what to expect in the competitions, and will be more prepared for state.

This kid just amazes me daily. I can't believe that she was flunking her classes before I gained custody just a few years ago.

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Congratulations Jon.

Being 100k in debt after college is criminal in my opinion.
I know nothing of Whittenburg, but USNWR & others seem to think's it's so so.

The U.S. News & World Report for 2012 have Wittenberg ranked as the 121st best Liberal Arts college in the US,[16] and Forbes Magazine ranked the schools as the 176th best university in the country.[17]
In 2010, Princeton Review ranked Wittenberg 11th in the nation for "Best Classroom Experience", and 15th in the nation for "Professors Get High Marks".[17] In addition, Princeton Review ranked the college's campus the 18th most beautiful in the nation in 2009.[18]
Wittenberg University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I met a guy years ago on the Harley circuit who was an attorney and CPA. His story was that for his first two years in college, he attended a state school. Then he transferred to a more prestigious school to get his degree. Once he got his accounting job in NYC, PWC sent him to law school. No strings.

My youngest daughter had interest in two schools for her field, one private, one public, in 2002. The tuition/cost difference was about 20k per year. She went public. Because both schools required heavy internships in NYC, her networking skills and doggedness got her career off to a good start. This one didn't handle the freedom of college life too well and her mother wanted her to "take a year off and come home" I refused, and ended up paying her entire tuition for her last year. Had she stayed home, well.......
I know how proud you must be. She's " figured it out" early, it seems.
Good luck to you both.

Actually if preparing for a high paying profession and you know what you are doing as a young person for certain. The debt loading resulting can be almost inconsequential.

It is of serious consequence if the person is not really fit to tackle what they attempt. Or do not follow through properly. Or you pay for an education where there are either placement difficulties or lower incomes known at the end of the rainbow.

We have a lot of people with partial or complete higher educations in many fields that are in financial difficulty for one reason or another and not able to even properly service their debt loading from the education.

It is a distortion of the existing laws that they cannot enter bankruptcy to clear themselves of educational debt in Canada. The cravat being they should be able to satisfy some board that the relief required is valid so the practice would not be abused.

At the same time there is merit or value in being able to think better as a result of the experience so some form of prorating should enter the situation as well if required.

100k is a lot of money to some families and almost pocket change to others. This is just one more reason why the growing disparity of incomes across the spectrum of families is not the best thing for a society long term.