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cmbdiesel 01-04-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3264581)
My snow rants===
They must actually teach these behaviors in driver's ed, because they happen so often--at least here in the mid-Atlantic:
1) STOP, and force all behind you to stop at the bottom of all long grades. You lose precious momentum, and then slide all over the road, and into opposing traffic trying to get traction from a standing start on an uphill grade.
2) Find the critical intersections in your neighborhood ( there must be listing on the web by zip code)--maneuver your car to block all traffic, put on your 4-way flashers, lock, and abandon the vehicle.

And not quite so egregious.. drive too slow--like 8-12 mph in the "fast lane" of Interstate highways. If you are only comfortable at 8-12 mph, then PLEASE move to the right, and allow others to drive at the reckless speed of 15-20 mph.

There is a big dip in the road between my house and work. Whenever it is snowing, I stop at the top and give everybody ahead of me a few minutes to drive down into the hole and get stuck, then I motor the SD down one side and up the other, in whatever lane is clear. I've actually seen idiots step out and hold up their hands for me to stop so I can join their dumbass party.... those people move pretty quick when they finally get the message that the old Benz is just passing through.;)

cmbdiesel 01-04-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by iwrock (Post 3264617)
Slow in the snow?!?!

I'm that guy that's completely sideways in the snow - taking up two lanes.

Need to fine tune my driving skills.

I'm that guy on purpose....:cool:
But only when those lanes are not being used by others...

Rear wheel drive and slippery roads = Fun!

The Swede 01-04-2014 09:32 AM

Wife and I were doing donuts in movie parking lot last night. Awesome! WRX still has summer tires, having Dunlop snows put on right now. Bring on the snow *****es!!

catmandoo62 01-04-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3265553)
I'm that guy on purpose....:cool:
But only when those lanes are not being used by others...

Rear wheel drive and slippery roads = Fun!

oh you know it!back in the early 80's my home town of about 8,000 pretty much rolled up the streets at night and there was a parking ban overnite.i had an old 65 pontiac catalina 2 dr post.we used to go out about midnight and drift thru town powerslidding around corners,what a blast.

MS Fowler 01-04-2014 01:47 PM

An illustration of how much we, as a culture, have changed. In the winter of 1966 I was in my senior year of HS. I also was beginning to drive myself to school. 10 miles from school--a 1/2 hour drive or an hour+ on the bus.
It started snowing overnight, and about 4 inches were on the roads as I started for school driving the hand-me-down 1960 Ford Fairlane 500--this was not a mid-size in 1960, but a model in the large Ford line--in fact the widest car Ford ever made(Illegally so in several states). 292 V8 2 speed automatic read drive with bias ply snow tires.
The trip to school took over 2 hours due to the snarled traffic, and they closed schools after lunch.
About 8 inches on the roads by the time we got back home.
No accident, no driver ed. Just be careful. It was a good lesson.

Today schools would have been closed before anyone even left their houses.

SwampYankee 01-06-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3265938)
Today schools would have been closed before anyone even left their houses.

Today schools would be closed the night before, before the first flake fell. ;)

cmbdiesel 01-06-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3265938)
An illustration of how much we, as a culture, have changed. In the winter of 1966 I was in my senior year of HS. I also was beginning to drive myself to school. 10 miles from school--a 1/2 hour drive or an hour+ on the bus.
It started snowing overnight, and about 4 inches were on the roads as I started for school driving the hand-me-down 1960 Ford Fairlane 500--this was not a mid-size in 1960, but a model in the large Ford line--in fact the widest car Ford ever made(Illegally so in several states). 292 V8 2 speed automatic read drive with bias ply snow tires.
The trip to school took over 2 hours due to the snarled traffic, and they closed schools after lunch.
About 8 inches on the roads by the time we got back home.
No accident, no driver ed. Just be careful. It was a good lesson.

Today schools would have been closed before anyone even left their houses.

Can't fault the schools for that.
Considerably more congestion on the roads now than 1960's and every other car is a late-for-work-douche who would gladly try and pass the line of cars behind the school bus.
Not to mention the sue-happy mentality that would prevail if little junior's bus was involved in a minor snow-related accident.... he would be scarred for life...:rolleyes:

When I was a kid, I had to walk to school through 3' of snow, uphill both ways....;)

Simpler=Better 01-06-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3265938)
....

No accident, no driver ed. Just be careful. It was a good lesson.

....

People forget that it's that simple-just slow down. You can get around in an unladen 2wd truck with bald tires if you go slow enough

cmbdiesel 01-06-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Simpler=Better (Post 3266731)
People forget that it's that simple-just slow down. You can get around in an unladen 2wd truck with bald tires if you go slow enough

meh.... not always. Certainly not if you have to stop for tweedle-dumb who couldn't drive through flurries with a HumVee...
I've lived in places where you simply were not getting home unless you had four wheel drive or chains, and a pick-up better have weight in the back or even the chains won't do it.

MS Fowler 01-06-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3266701)
Can't fault the schools for that.
Considerably more congestion on the roads now than 1960's and every other car is a late-for-work-douche who would gladly try and pass the line of cars behind the school bus.
Not to mention the sue-happy mentality that would prevail if little junior's bus was involved in a minor snow-related accident.... he would be scarred for life...:rolleyes:

When I was a kid, I had to walk to school through 3' of snow, uphill both ways....;)

All valid reasons....but--what are we teaching our kids? Then--should we be teaching that to our kids?

SwampYankee 01-06-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3266701)
Can't fault the schools for that.
Considerably more congestion on the roads now than 1960's and every other car is a late-for-work-douche who would gladly try and pass the line of cars behind the school bus.
Not to mention the sue-happy mentality that would prevail if little junior's bus was involved in a minor snow-related accident.... he would be scarred for life...:rolleyes:

When I was a kid, I had to walk to school through 3' of snow, uphill both ways....;)

The bold part is the primary reason.

Somehow folks in...say...Buffalo or Aroostook County or MN or pick any location with regular, real amounts of snowfall can figure out how to get a school bus around without incident. Or maybe they just don't get sued as often?

Might very well be an indictment of the mentality of the fine residents of the mid-Atlantic/southern New England states. :o

MS Fowler 01-06-2014 01:15 PM

I will say this one thing is defense of some of my Mid-Atlantic brethren....
The snow here is ofter of a different character than snows further north, maybe more ice crystals? I don't know what is the difference, but friends who moved here after living in the snow belt--and mocking drivers here, remark that the snow is "different".
Still, that doesn't account for the stupid behavior of drivers, or more correctly, impeders of traffic flow.

Simpler=Better 01-06-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3266836)
I will say this one thing is defense of some of my Mid-Atlantic brethren....
The snow here is ofter of a different character than snows further north, maybe more ice crystals? I don't know what is the difference, but friends who moved here after living in the snow belt--and mocking drivers here, remark that the snow is "different".
Still, that doesn't account for the stupid behavior of drivers, or more correctly, impeders of traffic flow.

No, it's not. I'm from a bordertown with Canada and MD snow is the same as Canadian snow.

My theory is that we don't get enough rain, which means the junk dripped/ sprayed/ ground into the roads starts to loosen up when the road gets wet. Since it never really gets cold here, the snows are always wet and melt quickly. Bam, wet road, loose grime, lower temperatures-you've got reduced traction on the road.

Add in panicky drivers who drive too fast and brake too late, then you're all set for some great people watching.

On a brighter note, I did encounter someone who let me have their parking space the other day AND they blocked a "spot stealer" for me, so we're not all bad down here

SwampYankee 01-06-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3266836)
I will say this one thing is defense of some of my Mid-Atlantic brethren....
The snow here is ofter of a different character than snows further north, maybe more ice crystals? I don't know what is the difference, but friends who moved here after living in the snow belt--and mocking drivers here, remark that the snow is "different".
Still, that doesn't account for the stupid behavior of drivers, or more correctly, impeders of traffic flow.

There is no defense of my southern-New England brethren and sistren on the roads, the majority just $uck driving. Period.

Not me, of course. :D

tbomachines 01-06-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee (Post 3266865)
There is no defense of my southern-New England brethren and sistren on the roads, the majority just $uck driving. Period.

Not me, of course. :D


You think it's bad there, Philly is at least 10x worse. Worse drivers to start, then throw in clueless and generally a pissed off demeanor, mix with snow and there's real reason not to go out on the roads during or after storms.


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