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HuskyMan 04-25-2014 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3320847)
This exactly. Those who start hollering about it are itching for another one.

If they would merely leave 'em alone, there would be no trouble.

third party interlopers trespassing on private matters.

torturous interference with a private contract.

It really does take two to tango.

HuskyMan 04-25-2014 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3320844)
You do realize that pretty much everything you wrote is exactly what the BLM, aka "feds" avoided. There were substantial lessons learned from past incidents, yet there is this need to believe that every confrontation must be a repeat of "Another Ruby Ridge/Waco event"

It would seem that there's a group that would like nothing better than for this to turn into a shoot out. Why is that?
This. the feds didn't avoid ANYTHING. Since burning 13 children to a crisp at WACO and shooting a 14 year old boy in the back at Ruby Ridge, they have suddenly become aware that violence may not be their best option.


elchivito 04-25-2014 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3320848)
If they would merely leave 'em alone, there would be no trouble.


You mean let Bundy continue to break the law and overgraze land he doesn't own while not paying for the privilege? Um, OK.

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3320848)
third party interlopers trespassing on private matters.

torturous interference with a private contract.

It really does take two to tango.
How is the BLM a "third party"? What "private matters"? What "private contract"?

HuskyMan 04-25-2014 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3320857)
You mean let Bundy continue to break the law and overgraze land he doesn't own while not paying for the privilege? Um, OK.



How is the BLM a "third party"? What "private matters"? What "private contract"?
the right to be left alone and enjoy peace and happiness. They are like the NYC mafia going to restaurant and dry cleaner owners and offering them a deal they cannot refuse; they want to be paid for providing 'protection'.

Can you say 'protection racket'? I knew you could......:D

Botnst 04-25-2014 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3320769)
Sarcasm?

While no one is ever "totally innocent" in pretty much anything, the fed spent years in legal proceedings and then executed a court order . . . and then successfully "de-fused" a potentially life threatening confrontation with para-military types . . . some credit seems to be deserved.
Successfully defusing a situation that they created is excellent. Much better than Reno's modus operandi. Glad they learned a lesson.

But it really does beg the question of whether the was themselves are just.

Botnst 04-25-2014 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3320791)
I have known a lot of folks like Bundy. There is nothing new is what he is saying. I have been hearing this for over fifty years from people living in the west. I always thought it was odd to hear people wail on about not believing in the US Government while at the same time happily cashing their soil bank checks.

What is interesting to me is that Bundy has said nothing that Rush Limbaugh has not said many times in the past and Republicans think Rush is the smartest human that ever lived. If you ever want to hear a Conservative defend someone then just say something critical about Rush and then stand back.

So Rush says the same thing Bundy says and he is a true hero, while Bundy says the same thing Rush says and Conservatives can't scramble away fast enough.

Is that what Conservatives call 'sticking to their principals'?
They're all alike. You know one, you know them all.

Botnst 04-25-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3320832)
A bad precedent would be body bags over cows, grazing fees and money.
Exactly right.

Botnst 04-25-2014 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3320847)
This exactly. Those who start hollering about it are itching for another one.
Yeah, all of those people are alike and want to die along with their families in a conflagration. Brilliant.

elchivito 04-25-2014 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3320865)
Yeah, all of those people are alike and want to die along with their families in a conflagration. Brilliant.
I didn't say anybody was alike. You've confused me with Idle. Or somebody.

elchivito 04-25-2014 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3320858)
the right to be left alone and enjoy peace and happiness. They are like the NYC mafia going to restaurant and dry cleaner owners and offering them a deal they cannot refuse; they want to be paid for providing 'protection'.

Can you say 'protection racket'? I knew you could......:D
I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you?
I would GUESS you have several issues mixed up, but it's only a guess.

Idle 04-25-2014 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3320863)
They're all alike. You know one, you know them all.
As a matter of fact.... They are. That is why they join groups that are set-up along their ways of thinking, have weapons practice together, etc.

When you have been dealing with these people for fifty or more years please feel free to discuss how much they are alike. I have known a great many of these people and there is not a dimes worth of difference between any of them.

Idle 04-25-2014 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3320865)
Yeah, all of those people are alike and want to die along with their families in a conflagration. Brilliant.
Do you know any of them that don't think this way? The highest calling is to be a martyr for the 'cause'. Why do you think they seem to find a way to confront the police so often?

Your problem with this is that you don't understand the people you are trying to talk about. You consider them to be normal when they are in fact delusional. When you look at it from their point of view the last thing they want to be is different from each other. They are a solid group, not individuals, and in their world there is no room for individual thought.

Idle 04-25-2014 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3320863)
They're all alike. You know one, you know them all.
Say..... Did you give any thought to addressing what I was commenting on? Rush has been going on about this very thing for twenty-five years and Conservatives love him. Bundy says what they all think and everyone runs for cover.

Why? Is it that they can't stand to look in the mirror?

Idle 04-25-2014 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3320858)
the right to be left alone and enjoy peace and happiness. They are like the NYC mafia going to restaurant and dry cleaner owners and offering them a deal they cannot refuse; they want to be paid for providing 'protection'.

Can you say 'protection racket'? I knew you could......:D
But they are not asking for the right to be left alone. They are defying a court order and telling the Feds to come and get them. They have said they do not want peace, so that's not it either.

They just want the right to steal from the US government. And that makes them Conservative Heros?

MTI 04-25-2014 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3320871)
I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you?
I would GUESS you have several issues mixed up, but it's only a guess.
Whew! I thought it was just me . . .


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