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Txjake 04-10-2014 10:42 AM

Another Ruby Ridge/Waco event brewing
 
This will not end well. the paramilitary Feds are there and they want blood...

Defiant Nevada rancher faces armed federal agents in escalating confiscation standoff - BizPac Review

Nevada Governor Calls Federal Cattle Roundup ‘Intimidation’ « CBS Las Vegas

'Wake up America,' says family involved in BLM cattle dispute | KSL.com

INSIDIOUS 04-10-2014 03:40 PM

The guy has been a long time violator.

Txjake 04-10-2014 03:52 PM

His cows are on land that his family has ranched for over a indeed years

INSIDIOUS 04-10-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 3314472)
His cows are on land that his family has ranched for over a indeed years

In violation not paying his fees. Might as well walk into a gov office and grab some equipment.

Skippy 04-10-2014 04:39 PM

His case would probably be a lot stronger if he'd paid his fees.

It's true that the federal government owns way too much of Nevada and that's something that should be addressed, but in this case it looks like the rancher is about to be out of the ranching business.

John Galt 04-10-2014 04:47 PM

The guy is just trying to feed the crowd at McD's; he's nothing more than a 'paper criminal' if that. He should have paid the lease fees, or not used the grazing leases, however the police response is over-the-top. The heavy handed response is what's expected with a militarized police force. They have the gear, they will use it. Too bad they can't pursue real criminals with that enthusiasm.

Dudesky 04-10-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3314466)
The guy has been a long time violator.


Uncle Sam?

cmbdiesel 04-10-2014 05:49 PM

I suspect that we are only hearing half the story.
And that half doesn't make Mr Rancher look real good....

After they round up all his cows, he won't be a rancher, and he won't need to graze animals.

If he felt he had a legitimate claim, he should have pursued it years ago.
Now he is just a grand scale scofflaw.

jplinville 04-10-2014 06:00 PM

Wouldn't it be better use of tax dollars to have these officers guarding the border instead?? Lots of resources being wasted here...

elchivito 04-10-2014 06:05 PM

"Over the top" response by whom? The guy's been in violation for twenty years.
He lost his "rights" when the BLM took over that land, which was probably when he was a child, if born at all.
I don't like them either. I have an allotment that I lease to another family. This fellow's a scofflaw trying to make his criminality into a state's rights issue. Nonsense.

spdrun 04-10-2014 06:25 PM

What were the lease costs over time? If they were raised too quickly to unconscionable levels, I'd say that he might have a legitimate gripe.

If someone is renting a house, it's generally illegal (not to mention morally sketchy) to say "I'm raising your rent from $1000 to $3000 next month, pay up or move out."

BAVBMW 04-10-2014 06:33 PM

First they came for the...

MV

Skippy 04-10-2014 06:37 PM

Couple questions in my mind. 1. Why didn't they try to evict the herd in 1994 when the grazing permit was revoked? 2. What are they going to do with the cattle they round up?

I don't know why BLM doesn't just allow its grazing users to simply buy their allotments and put the land in private hands. There's no good reason I can think of for the .gov to own so much land.

Dudesky 04-10-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3314523)
"Over the top" response by whom? The guy's been in violation for twenty years.
He lost his "rights" when the BLM took over that land, which was probably when he was a child, if born at all.
I don't like them either. I have an allotment that I lease to another family. This fellow's a scofflaw trying to make his criminality into a state's rights issue. Nonsense.

Saw a very similar issue where gov't has been revoking water and land use rights that have been in place for over a century. One family won their case only to be told by the gov;t, we;ll see you in the 9th court, where we always win.

BTW, it was on Fox and must have been BS..."Enemies of the State"

Bring on the attacks.....

MTI 04-10-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BAVBMW (Post 3314533)
First they came for the...

MV

Cows?


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