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TylerH860 08-10-2014 11:43 AM

Tony Stewart Runs over Competitor after altercation... Murder? Manslaughter?
 
Yikes...

Video: Tony Stewart Runs Over Driver During Confrontation, Killing Him

tbomachines 08-10-2014 11:45 AM

Pretty gruesome, tragic and completely avoidable.

spdrun 08-10-2014 12:19 PM

Neither murder nor manslaughter. A tragic accident, compounded by the guy who was hit running out onto a racetrack to wave his willy around. That's like running into traffic on a freeway.

Driving on loose surfaces isn't like street driving -- Stewart could have hit throttle to make his car turn away from the guy faster. Or he could have throttled up to spray Ward with dirt. Basically impossible to prove intent to kill or maim beyond a reasonable doubt.

If anything, this should be a wrongful death lawsuit. The sheriff is right in not launching a criminal investigation since a jury trial would be a waste of the county's money.

aklim 08-10-2014 12:22 PM

What was that guy doing on the track after crashing out? :confused:Looks like he deliberately walked onto the track even after another car missed him and still continued.

TheDon 08-10-2014 02:01 PM

He shouldn't have jumped out in the track. You can clearly see him jump out of the way of a white and blue car before Stewart came by.

gatorblue92 08-10-2014 02:08 PM

The guy was a dumbass. I know he was pissed he got wrecked but still.

aklim 08-10-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 3371136)
He shouldn't have jumped out in the track. You can clearly see him jump out of the way of a white and blue car before Stewart came by.

I don't know what he was up to. What was he trying to achieve? Supposedly the car was revved up so we rear end kicks out to hit him. What would the motive be? Other guy was out of the race.

cmac2012 08-10-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3371138)
I don't know what he was up to. What was he trying to achieve? Supposedly the car was revved up so we rear end kicks out to hit him. What would the motive be? Other guy was out of the race.

On the previous lap, Stewart passed him and clipped his front tire, making him spin out. One could imagine Ward thinking that he had intentionally hit him. After Ward jumped out, he was pointing and gesturing - looked angry, like he was accusing Stewart of uhhh, unethical behavior. You can see it was Stewart's car that hit his car, paint scheme is unique.

Skid Row Joe 08-10-2014 03:35 PM

Tragic.

The guy that was so tough in confronting Stewart's car, chickened out and was trying to get out of the way at the last second, but his temper couldn't get him out of the situation that he placed himself in by getting in front of Stewart's car. The guy got hiself killed, plain and simple.

cmac2012 08-10-2014 03:41 PM

He was a complete dumbass but I'm not ready to give Stewart a pass. I watched the part just before the collision (2nd, fatal) and I think I can hear the engine rev up while the guy is still standing. Very strange. Word I read is that there was bad blood between them.

tbomachines 08-10-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 3371165)
He was a complete dumbass but I'm not ready to give Stewart a pass. I watched the part just before the collision (2nd, fatal) and I think I can hear the engine rev up while the guy is still standing. Very strange. Word I read is that there was bad blood between them.


I imaging Stewart was probably trying to kick the back out and swing the car the other way since it was on dirt but he didn't do it in time.

kerry 08-10-2014 03:45 PM

Hard to tell from the video but it's not out of the question that Stewart attempted to spray him with some dirt and misjudged it. hard to prove though. Spent a lot of time in Canandaigua in my youth.

cmac2012 08-10-2014 03:47 PM

Very real possibility actually.

One thing is clear, there was some motor-head mania at play here. 'You hit my car man! Yer a scumbag dude, yer a -' BUMP!

Plenty more cars to be had. One body is all you get.

spdrun 08-10-2014 03:58 PM

Why not wait till everyone is done racing then punch his lights out? Practically, you won't win against a car going 60, though if you're 20, beating the crap out of a chubby guy over 40 might be easier.

Skippy 08-10-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3371177)
Why not wait till everyone is done racing then punch his lights out? Practically, you won't win against a car going 60, though if you're 20, beating the crap out of a chubby guy over 40 might be easier.

I was reading about this earlier thinking that's what Senna would have done.

Edit: Finally watched the video: Holy chit! Get that guy a Darwin Award.


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