Tony Stewart Runs over Competitor after altercation... Murder? Manslaughter? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

TylerH860 · #1 08-10-2014, 11:43 AM

Yikes...

Video: Tony Stewart Runs Over Driver During Confrontation, Killing Him

tbomachines · #2 08-10-2014, 11:45 AM

Pretty gruesome, tragic and completely avoidable.

spdrun · #3 08-10-2014, 12:19 PM

Neither murder nor manslaughter. A tragic accident, compounded by the guy who was hit running out onto a racetrack to wave his willy around. That's like running into traffic on a freeway.

Driving on loose surfaces isn't like street driving -- Stewart could have hit throttle to make his car turn away from the guy faster. Or he could have throttled up to spray Ward with dirt. Basically impossible to prove intent to kill or maim beyond a reasonable doubt.

If anything, this should be a wrongful death lawsuit. The sheriff is right in not launching a criminal investigation since a jury trial would be a waste of the county's money.

aklim · #4 08-10-2014, 12:22 PM

What was that guy doing on the track after crashing out?

Looks like he deliberately walked onto the track even after another car missed him and still continued.

TheDon · #5 08-10-2014, 02:01 PM

He shouldn't have jumped out in the track. You can clearly see him jump out of the way of a white and blue car before Stewart came by.

aklim · #6 08-10-2014, 02:08 PM

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He shouldn't have jumped out in the track. You can clearly see him jump out of the way of a white and blue car before Stewart came by.

I don't know what he was up to. What was he trying to achieve? Supposedly the car was revved up so we rear end kicks out to hit him. What would the motive be? Other guy was out of the race.

cmac2012 · #7 08-10-2014, 03:20 PM

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I don't know what he was up to. What was he trying to achieve? Supposedly the car was revved up so we rear end kicks out to hit him. What would the motive be? Other guy was out of the race.

On the previous lap, Stewart passed him and clipped his front tire, making him spin out. One could imagine Ward thinking that he had intentionally hit him. After Ward jumped out, he was pointing and gesturing - looked angry, like he was accusing Stewart of uhhh, unethical behavior. You can see it was Stewart's car that hit his car, paint scheme is unique.

gatorblue92 · #8 08-10-2014, 02:08 PM

The guy was a dumbass. I know he was pissed he got wrecked but still.

Skid Row Joe · #9 08-10-2014, 03:35 PM

Tragic.

The guy that was so tough in confronting Stewart's car, chickened out and was trying to get out of the way at the last second, but his temper couldn't get him out of the situation that he placed himself in by getting in front of Stewart's car. The guy got hiself killed, plain and simple.

aklim · #10 08-10-2014, 09:53 PM

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Tragic.

The guy that was so tough in confronting Stewart's car, chickened out and was trying to get out of the way at the last second, but his temper couldn't get him out of the situation that he placed himself in by getting in front of Stewart's car. The guy got hiself killed, plain and simple.

Do stupid things and you get killed is one thing but for me to call that tragic, it would require more than that. It would be tragic if the accident caused him to die but after the accident, going out onto the track was just begging for something bad to happen. Hard for me to call that tragic.

aklim · #11 08-10-2014, 11:56 PM

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Wrong. -It wasn't an "accident."

The meathead, with forethought and malice, charged Stewart's car, (watch the video) then was desperately trying to get out of the way when he saw his a** was going to get hit by the car he was rushing. That was not an "accident," as you put it. That was a willful attack and a malicious deed rushing Stewart's car. He must've been too stoopid to realize his deed was going to get hiself killed. I would surmise that he thought that he could do battle with Stewart, via proxy charging Stewart's car. The guy was wearing black, a helmet, and charged a race car. Stewart, OR ANY DRIVER, had no reasonable expectation to even think his race car would be rushed by a man in black, Tony had just enough time to think; WTF?! then boom, it was over. Just tragic.

But how is it tragic?

cmac2012 · #12 08-11-2014, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wrong. -It wasn't an "accident."

The meathead, with forethought and malice, charged Stewart's car, (watch the video) then was desperately trying to get out of the way when he saw his a** was going to get hit by the car he was rushing. That was not an "accident," as you put it. That was a willful attack and a malicious deed rushing Stewart's car. He must've been too stoopid to realize his deed was going to get hiself killed. I would surmise that he thought that he could do battle with Stewart, via proxy charging Stewart's car. The guy was wearing black, a helmet, and charged a race car. Stewart, OR ANY DRIVER, had no reasonable expectation to even think his race car would be rushed by a man in black, Tony had just enough time to think; WTF?! then boom, it was over. Just tragic.

What, did the camera have night vision lenses? The camera saw him pretty well. I think he probably meant to spray dirt but wasn't as good at it as he thought.

This could be an answer to a physics question: what happens when two hotheads collide?

Idle · #13 08-11-2014, 05:04 PM

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Tragic.

The guy that was so tough in confronting Stewart's car, chickened out and was trying to get out of the way at the last second, but his temper couldn't get him out of the situation that he placed himself in by getting in front of Stewart's car. The guy got hiself killed, plain and simple.

Yup. His ego got the better of him. Maybe he was not thinking clearly, but every mother has told her child about the dangers of playing in the traffic. I hate to be harsh but trying to stop a speeding car with your body is not a well thought out plan.

aklim · #14 08-11-2014, 05:09 PM

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Yup. His ego got the better of him. Maybe he was not thinking clearly, but every mother has told her child about the dangers of playing in the traffic. I hate to be harsh but trying to stop a speeding car with your body is not a well thought out plan.

Maybe but he can be a lesson of "what not to do" to other's

Skid Row Joe · #15 08-11-2014, 08:41 PM

As a young buck I'm certain that Ward was emulating the now all too famous NASCAR drivers that "git out yer crashed race car on-the-race-track syndrome, and go tumble with the guy who wrecked you out!"

If his tragic death meant anything, I think the racing community will enter the 20th Century in making this stupid 'git out yer car' fightin' behavior taboo.