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Old 09-25-2014, 10:00 AM
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These days in London that would be turned into a glass floored feature.
We saw some of that in Greece....pretty cool!

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Old 09-25-2014, 11:14 AM
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WTH? Glad you discovered it (relatively) on your own terms and not by surprise!

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I think if it were me, id grab a skeleton from a science lab, and connect it with chains to the side of the well, then a nice solid trap door.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:15 AM
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These days in London that would be turned into a glass floored feature.
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We saw some of that in Greece....pretty cool!
That would be!
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I've seen how plumbers used to tap into hand-dug wells to bring running water into a home. They'd bury a lateral line below the frost point so it entered the well from the side and then install a vertical pipe inside the well down to the water. A centrifugal pump inside the building would draw the water into the pressure tank. The pump would have to be primed to get the water flowing. In my area they were installing these systems well into the mid-1960s.

That's surely what the steel pipes were for. To me, the PVC looks like it was installed to drain something into the well. Stormwater runoff, perhaps? Whatever it was, in my state it would have been illegal on the day it was installed, so it's good you're having it sealed up.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:36 AM
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I'd cap it with plexi like Stretch said!

I kinda want to drive out and see it now
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:38 AM
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Dont fill it in!

You are a trapdoor away from your own personal Oubliette!
Had to look that one up.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:39 AM
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I filled in an open well in the backyard of the property we occupy. When the land was purchased there was no evidence of a structure but plenty of really old apple trees around on it. The well was an open stone lined one that anyone could have fallen into. If there was once a cover it had probably rotted away. I just found it accidentally while looking over the ba the property after purchase.. Anyone could have fallen in.

As we excavated for the house foundation a rock footing wall was located. Someone had scavenged the stones down to ground level.So I decided to find out a little more. Turns out their was a structure still existing on the property in the early 1940s.

Apparently a German national with a travelling circus was shut down and he was interned. Some of the animals where kept here. Lions or tigers on this property I was told. I have no ideal what ultimately happened to the large cats.

Up on the adjacent property the elephant was kept in a barn and died there. All the property along the road for three miles or so was part of a free land grant to the deserving under the English class system originally I suspect. Probably a thousand acres or better. I assume the structure present on our property at one time was some type of pioneer structure.

For what it is worth if the water tested really good in an old stone well. Plus the septic system where a decent distance removed from it. I would not just fill it in today.

Instead since it would cost almost nothing to set it up properly for further potential use. Probably about the same as closing it off forever. The taste of the water for example may be better or worse than your three hundred footer. Or you may someday have a ground shift or something impact the deeper well.

Once the stone well is filled in it is lost to time. Depending on the gallonage your deep well can deliver. It would not surprise me if your surface ground water well might supply more volume in the case of a fire or whatever.

I think the well that was on this property was so early that water was perhaps recovered from it by bucket. I saw no piping at all. Logically there was no electricity available anywhere when the pioneer house or large cabin was built on this site.

It is possible someone may have put some form of temporary pump system on it to water the animals by the early forties. There are cheap pumps out there that could be installed and not activated for a standby well. I would do a test pump of the well to see what it can deliver.

It is a pretty safe bet that on the year of my birth. Lions or tigers or perhaps even both occupied our property. The elephant on top of the hill died there I was told.

There was a German POW camp in town. I have heard that they were let out to work on peoples houses etc. Probably on local farms as well. Apparently the local population and them got on well together. I guess basically free or nearly free labor was always attractive. I wondered who where the caretakers for the animals here. The paved road out front was still just a dirt road

So it must not have been unusual to have German POW soldiers walking around town during the second world war to some extent. Logically there was no real flight risk.

The town was packed with industries servicing the war effort though. I still from time to time still find out interesting things about the town of 10,000 we live three miles or so from. Yet nobody has written a book that I have noticed.

Some of the founding fathers of the Canadian constitution lived here and one of them had a drug store here that was in continuous operation until only a year or two ago. No doubt the oldest drug store in continuous operation in Canada up till the time of it's closure.

I guess after your post on discovering an old well got me thinking about it. I will now spend some time trying to locate at least the details of who originally had this property as a bulk grant. I saw an early map that indicated it was one.

Then subdivided it and to who. With some indication there may have been even other owners afterwards.

Incidentally the local codes state an unused well must be closed down. I do not always see this as the best decision. In some cases it is the best course of action but not in all in my opinion. For some just capped off properly for further use if the need ever occurs.

We have in excess of twenty gallons a minute available on our drilled well. I usually had wells drilled in the driest part of the year. As usual the well driller wanted to go even deeper. I told him if there was any difficulty he could come back. On another property we developed that had old structures. There was a 60 foot 6 inch drilled well. Plus a two hundred and fifty foot drilled well to service a pig barn many years ago. I put the new house on the 60 foot well as there had been no trouble with it. It easily supplies the dwelling.

The two fifty foot well I just capped off. Technically if forced to totally eliminate it I would have made it into a garden supply well with pump and all even though not used to attempt to keep it legal. It costs a fair dollar locally to punch a hole down that far locally. Also If having a well drilled today I would still try to find a guy with an old impact driller setup. I have a gut feeling they will in general produce a good serviceable well at a lesser depth. I suspect the pounding fractures the area it is drilling through opening up better flow feeders. Where the rotary drill does not.

There was a valid point made by a poster. It is really wrong for anyone to have introduced a drain feed into a well. So I doubt it was a drain.

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Old 09-25-2014, 12:59 PM
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You guys mean like this:
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:14 PM
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There are three pipes visible - two metal, one PVC. Nothing is draining into the well - and the water is absolutely clear and odorless (pulled samples up).

We're on well water here (~300' deep well about 200 yards from the house - out by the barn). Had a local (as in just up the road) well guy come by yesterday afternoon to look at our new find . Old dude and his two sons - turns out the old guy actually dug the active well on our property 20+ years ago! They'll be giving us a quote for properly filling and sealing off the well in our laundry room.

The only wood that we can see is (was) directly over the well. There is a metal collar at the top of the rock column - looks like somebody poured concrete up to the collar, and then laid plywood over the top of the collar - and tile on top of the ply.

The rock work in the well is spectacular - HUGE rocks stacked in a very nicely formed cylinder.
Could it be a cistern for rainwater collection?
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:15 PM
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Similar situation. All he really wanted was his bones rattled though. Had she just understood that she may have avoided the well.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:18 PM
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Could it be a cistern for rainwater collection?
No reason for the depth then. Also no pipe present of a size you would expect for one.

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