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Old 05-20-2015, 09:59 AM
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Actually they do. A five point (or six point like they use in F1) does a considerably better job keeping you positioned in your seat than a three point. You stay where you're supposed to be, and as long as there isn't gross intrusion of something hard into the passenger compartment, you're good.
And it's a reason why race cars are designed with limited driver mobility and reach. They're not expected to pay tolls, have passengers, deal with mobility issues . . .

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Old 05-20-2015, 11:24 AM
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Well as its an automatic the redline is only 7000rpm because they didn't make a torque converter that worked above that. And the body has plenty of dings. But it's still something right?


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Old 05-20-2015, 12:28 PM
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If I read the list correctly, every vehicle manufactured after 2011 (Honda Element) is not included. Two comments:
I dislike Honda Elements on principle. They're Fugly.
I wish the entire list was made up of oversized Pickup Trucks.

Heard on TV this morning (Joe) the recall, to replace all, would likely take years.
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:36 PM
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If I read the list correctly, every vehicle manufactured after 2011 (Honda Element) is not included. Two comments:
I dislike Honda Elements on principle. They're Fugly.
I wish the entire list was made up of oversized Pickup Trucks.

Heard on TV this morning (Joe) the recall, to replace all, would likely take years.
It's not just Elements, irrespective of your opinion. News this a.m. said 1 out of every 4 cars on the road is affected. Turns out my Element IS on the list. Dealer has ordered parts and says he'll have them in a MONTH if I'm lucky.
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So what's involved in disabling airbag circuitry? I just called again to touch base with dealership. Service mgr. says she can't do it. Illegal, or something.
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Unlike early SRS systems, I believe modern systems have a secondary power source in conjunction with the main electrical system. To safely disable for service, you have to disconnect or discharge both.
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Sooo... what happens if you are in an accident and your airbag deploys? Will the replacements you get be good ones or bad ones?
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:03 PM
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Sooo... what happens if you are in an accident and your airbag deploys? Will the replacements you get be good ones or bad ones?
I would suggest not having an affair with your dealership's service advisers wife.
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Phoned a Honda service dept today. The service advisor said he will not be aware if my car is on the list for another month or so. At present they claim to have nothing. I am pretty sure my model will be in the most recent list.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:11 AM
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Good reason to own a car that was made before the swine in DC started requiring that all new cars have explosives aimed at the faces of the people in them.
Some people like a better chance of surviving a collision.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:25 AM
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In my experience, I see more injuries from seat belt tensioners, like clavicle fractures, than injuries from bag deployment. Very few people even recall the bag since the deployment and deflation occurs so quickly. Those people are very happy to have the SRS.
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In my experience, I see more injuries from seat belt tensioners, like clavicle fractures, than injuries from bag deployment. Very few people even recall the bag since the deployment and deflation occurs so quickly. Those people are very happy to have the SRS.
My first up close and personal experience with an airbag was in my second Miata (a lovely smurf blue 1990). Nice lady pulled into an intersection against a red light, and I t-boned her Matrix at something just south of 50 MPH.

I was traveling at or about the speed limit, and had just enough time to go both feet in and slam the shifter into third (on impact, my right hand punched the stereo out of the dash). Didn't have time to lift my clutch foot.

The absolutely trippy part - I vividly recall watching the airbag unfold, in hyper-slow motion, seeing the printed text unfold, one letter at a time.

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