Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-08-2015, 12:41 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 10,936
How many individuals are on the application? If there are many it sounds correct. If there are one or two sounds ridiculous.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-08-2015, 12:57 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern California, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,538
I think it is improper professional language. You all is another way of saying "y'all", which someone would never write in a business letter.

The problem is that there is an inconsistency in the english language in that there is no plural for "you". "You" is both singular and plural. He or she becomes they or them.

That is why in the South, y'all is used (or even "all y'all"), and in other parts of the country, "you guys" is used.

There is no need for either because you is already plural.
__________________
Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-08-2015, 02:38 PM
SwampYankee's Avatar
New England Hick
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 1,501
Quote:
Originally Posted by suginami View Post
The problem is that there is an inconsistency in the english language in that there is no plural for "you". "You" is both singular and plural. He or she becomes they or them.
You mean it's not youz?
__________________

1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15
'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-08-2015, 04:54 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern California, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by SwampYankee View Post
You mean it's not youz?
I thought it was youz guyz.
__________________
Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-08-2015, 04:55 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern California, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,538
I think the interesting thing is, if english had a plural "you", we wouldn't feel the need to make it plural, thus you guys, you all, y'all, all y'all, youz, etc.
__________________
Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-08-2015, 08:46 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 52,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by suginami View Post
I think the interesting thing is, if english had a plural "you", we wouldn't feel the need to make it plural, thus you guys, you all, y'all, all y'all, youz, etc.
That's why I think it should have been "all of you" if anything is used other than "I look forward to working with you".

It's not an end of life thing for me but I try my best to use proper language when speaking or writing, especially in a professional environment. This was a loan officer. I expect better. Perhaps I should not.
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-08-2015, 10:35 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmash View Post
That's why I think it should have been "all of you" if anything is used other than "I look forward to working with you".

It's not an end of life thing for me but I try my best to use proper language when speaking or writing, especially in a professional environment. This was a loan officer. I expect better. Perhaps I should not.
Silly question here but how has he done so far? IF he has acted professionally and to reasonable standards, I think while you are right in that he wasn't writing in absolutely professional language, I'd rather he does the right thing. I'd be glad to trade him for my developer's realtor. You couldn't find a fault with what he said. Always professional and polite sounding, correspondence impeckable. He had one slight flaw though. We were all set to close on a Friday morning at 0800 and he called my realtor at 2100 hrs THURSDAY saying that he didn't get something from my bank. WTF!! I'll just call my good friend the CEO of Wells Fargo and have him burn some midnight oil AT THE LITERAL 11TH HOUR. I can't remember what it was but it was the last thing needed. Why didn't he call me 48 hrs before and tell me that he didn't get it from the bank or even Thursday am? Apparently even the developer pretty much admitted it was his fault for the late notice of something he didn't get by saying they were sorry and in mitigation, he was very busy.

I'd be way more concerned with whether he can make the transaction go smoothly than his singular incident of verbiage you are unhappy with. If it is one issue, I'd be willing to let it go. If every other word in the letter sounds like some 5 yo kid from the ghetto, you might have a point.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-08-2015, 09:08 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 7,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by suginami View Post
I thought it was youz guyz.
My dear sir, the apropriate spelling is "youse" followed by a closing statement that includes the words "baseball bat" and "kneecaps".
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-11-2015, 11:19 AM
Jim B.'s Avatar
Who's flying this thing ?
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: N. California./ N. Nevada
Posts: 3,611
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
My dear sir, the apropriate spelling is "youse" followed by a closing statement that includes the words "baseball bat" and "kneecaps".
Please excuse me while I go play on my Tonya Harding pinball machine
__________________
1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-08-2015, 03:43 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 52,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by suginami View Post
I think it is improper professional language. You all is another way of saying "y'all", which someone would never write in a business letter.

The problem is that there is an inconsistency in the english language in that there is no plural for "you". "You" is both singular and plural. He or she becomes they or them.

That is why in the South, y'all is used (or even "all y'all"), and in other parts of the country, "you guys" is used.

There is no need for either because you is already plural.
Exactly my point.
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-08-2015, 03:40 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 52,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by sloride View Post
How many individuals are on the application? If there are many it sounds correct. If there are one or two sounds ridiculous.
Just me come to think of it.

Aside from the number of parties involved I am still of the opinion that the wording is not professional. Similar to when people use "irriguardless". It's not proper english.

I think the proper use would have been to say "all of you".
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page