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JB3 · #1 11-22-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

The B230 is pretty bullet proof, but because of the lack of oil squirters in the early B230's at around 180/200K miles there will be piston slap. The '92's and up had oil squirters and don't have that problem.

Good call, he needs to look for a 245 "classic" with the spoke rims.

I just talked myself into searching craigslist also

Mark DiSilvestro · #2 12-31-2017, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JB3

Doable, but you will have to do a lot of work for the 617 oil pan to clear the volvo engine cradle. It is in exactly the wrong position for the 617. Directly under the low oil pan, and possibly some suspension geometry issues modifying it. I encountered this issue in another (chevy chassis type) swap and went to considerable trouble to notch and rebuild the engine cradle so I could drop the engine down low enough to fit. Apart from things hitting in the wrong place and making things strong enough, there is plenty of room from what I remember. Its a long engine bay.

Honestly, the volvo red blocks are bulletproof. If you do decide to find one for the wife, just keep it stock. It will last every bit as long as the 617, and will be easier to repair.

OTOH, there are some Volvo 240 wagons running around with a small-block Ford V8 transplant!

Happy Motoring, Mark

t walgamuth · #3 11-22-2017, 10:32 AM

You might find one or a Volvo with the factory VW six cylinder diesel. Its slow but reliable....well as reliable as the VW diesels are.

CDTurbo001 · #4 11-22-2017, 11:53 AM

Ha. From what I can find about them on the net they weren't "pinless grenades" but not as durable as even the ubiquitous TDI's. Surely if the VW six would fit under the "bonnet", an OM617 would...

t walgamuth · #5 11-22-2017, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CDTurbo001

Ha. From what I can find about them on the net they weren't "pinless grenades" but not as durable as even the ubiquitous TDI's. Surely if the VW six would fit under the "bonnet", an OM617 would...

I believe the VW engine is physically smaller than the 617, but still the 617 may fit just fine. The volvo 2.3 is ohc but the diesel may be pushrod.

t walgamuth · #6 11-22-2017, 02:36 PM

My dad loved those old volvos. He thought the benzes were too complicated. I'm getting more like him everyday. Maybe I'll have to start driving volvos next.

t walgamuth · #7 11-22-2017, 06:44 PM

Pic of volvo with six cylinder vw diesel: Looks like room for a 617 to me.

CDTurbo001 · #8 11-23-2017, 05:38 PM

Good call about the sump location - might have to get creative if you wanted that swap to work. I didn't realize the internal engine upgrades coincided with the last year for the 240. So there was only one year of the 245 with the best iteration of the D24?

Hogweed · #9 11-23-2017, 07:00 PM

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/d/1967-volvo-122s-wagon/6393489484.html

JB3 · #10 11-24-2017, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CDTurbo001

Good call about the sump location - might have to get creative if you wanted that swap to work. I didn't realize the internal engine upgrades coincided with the last year for the 240. So there was only one year of the 245 with the best iteration of the D24?

Still somewhat of a minor issue to worry about honestly. I had a high mileage 1988 745 5 speed and a high mileage 1989 245 5 speed, both that never had any issue with piston slap. I wouldnt limit my search too much based on that alone. If you came upon something in great condition that was a little older than 90s id still consider it. Personally my primary criteria like looking at mercedes would be rust condition.

CDTurbo001 · #11 11-23-2017, 07:56 PM

Ran across some pics of those, too - super stylish, and a stick-shift to boot which would suit the wifey just fine. Gonna be a couple years before I have that kind of money, though.

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