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Old 08-22-2018, 04:22 PM
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electrical system on a non-electric lawnmower

Hello All,
Wasnt sure where to ask this, its not Mercedes, or even car related..but kinda is...
So in the 'tuner' world, we now have people putting out "standalone ECUs" - a computery box, with open-source or otherwise accessible software, that you can plug into the car where the factory ECU was. Big names right now are "Megasquirt" and "Speeduino"

I ran across a guy making a small, 1 cyl standalone system called nanoEFI (https://www.nanoefi.com/ )

He's still early in development, but I love this idea - every cheap small engine comes with a basic carburetor, which is often the most problematic part. Now, attaching a standalone ECU doesn't make things simpler or cheaper, but I like the "easier starting" and "more efficient" potential here.

My problem is this (and I'm only half serious, but still like the idea) - If I wanted to put a standalone on my lawnmower (just to see if I could do it) Id need a 5v or 12v power source - which most simple small engines dont have.

Small engines (think 5hp Briggs and Stratton) do have a flywheel with a magneto.

I could just attach a 12v UPS battery, but I'd have no way to charge it, unless I could use the magneto (or somehow attach magnets to the flywheel and use it to make power???)

Has anyone ever tried to make a usable charging circuit out of the magnets on a magneto-type ignition ? (doesnt need to be 12v, could be 6vdc if that'd work better)

thoughts ?

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Old 08-23-2018, 08:06 AM
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You might check out the world of Radio Controlled Aircraft. I know that people use the Weed Eater motors and I think have electronic ignition systems for them. I have some, but haven't messed with them. They use LiPo batteries usually, for the weight savings. I could ask, is you don't come up with stuff. Also, there are kits to update the points distributors to electronics for older cars.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:35 PM
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The one or 2 magnets embedded in the Flywheel/Fan are only in a small area of the Flywheel.
Suggestion to take a look at Motorcycle Alternators and how they are constructed and not worry about using the single magnet on the Flywheel.

You would have to make a stationary Stator that fit inside of the Flywheel close to the travel of the magnet. There would be a gap where the Ignition is. Is there eonough Magnatism to cause sufficent current to charge a battery? good question.

The you did fabricate a Stator and it worked it would have to be able to withstand vibration.

I don't know if it is possible to make a Genrator instaed of an Alternator.

If it is a large single cylinder engine you might find there is other models of the same engine that has an electric start and therefore a charging system parts that would actually fit.

Or you might find some way to attach shaft extension to the end with the Flywheel/Fan.

It is likely much easier just to use a Battery small enough that you can remove it and charge it from you vehicle while you are driving before and after you use the 1 cyliner engine.

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