On the Geraldo Rivera television show, "Now it can be told", he had several guests pursuing the issue of the 1995 OKC bombing. The then lieutenant governor for the State of Oklahoma was present as was a grandfather who had lost two of his grand children in the bombing.

The grandfather had hired a private investigator to try and find out who was responsible for the bombing. The investigator had located numerous people who were listening to their police scanners that morning. They all said that they heard the FBI put out a bulletin to be on the look out for a "yellow Ryder rental moving truck" in the downtown OKC area between 7:00 AM and 7:30 AM April 19th, 1995.

Amazing.

There are a lot of alternative theories about who what and when. It is entirely possible this is a fact, but if it is they didn't find it in time. I think the blast went off at 09:02.

But the way they would have known this was to have a person inside McVeigh's group. And they very likely didn't want to advertise this.

McVeigh was found through two methods: The rear axle housing of the truck survived and it was revealed that VIN was engraved on the inside of the housing as an anti-theft measure. So the FBI knew where the truck came from.

And he was pulled over north of OKC for his car not having a license plate on the back. A theory is it was blown off when the blast went off since the blast created a shock wave that ripped a lot of stuff loose from all sorts of things in the area.

When he was pulled over he told the Cop he had a gun in the car, which is a required thing in Oklahoma. So the Cop was like, OK, and started to run his DL when it came over the radio to be on the lookout for Tim McVeigh.

I helped with some of the clean up. Lots of people did. But I was lucky in that I didn't know anyone who was killed.

Lots of other folks did. This led to Oklahoma being a state that is very tough on any type of militia or terrorist activity. The state has been there and done that and they don't want a repeat of such a thing.

This. In every terrorist incident, there are three group(s):

1. The moles
2. the technicians
3. the patsy (mcveigh)

tim mcveigh held every marksmanship medal the U.S. army could award. The guy could hit a quarter at 100 yards with one arm tied behind his back. So....think about it, the cops pull a guy to the curb who supposedly just killed 168 people. To a crazed maniac, why not make it 169?

if mcveigh really was the crazed terrorist, he would have shot that cop dead between the eyes the moment the cop's boots hit the ground. But he didn't, did he? Instead, he played Mr. compliant and Mr. go-along-to-get-along.

There is NO good reason for mcveigh to:

1. Tell the cop he had a gun and then voluntarily hand his gun over to the cop
2. Conveniently have a copy of the "Turner Diaries" lying on the back seat of his car.
3. Drive around with no tags on his car.

Mcveigh was a patsy, nothing more and nothing less. he was the fall guy, the guy designated to be held responsible for the crimes of others unknown. In another time and another place he would have been known as Lee Harvey Oswald.

BTW, the Oklahoma City bomb squad cleared the building so they could defuse a bomb that was strapped to a pillar. No way a 1,200 pound cow ***** bomb did that much damage. 22 buildings in downtown OKC are now permanently closed including the phone company building which was a designated nuclear fall out shelter.

Their constitution says that a criminal trial is to be held in the county where the crime took place. Didn't happen here, did it? The powers that be decided to hold the trial in Denver, Colorado where very very few of the victim's families could afford to take off work and attend.

How convenient.

The judge in the denver trial refused to allow Carol Howe, an undercover ATF informant assigned to gather intelligence at Elohim City to testify.

Trials are moved all the time. This one definitely met the standard. BTW, what part of the COTUS is that in?

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1995 you say? you should hook up with bot, he likes him some history ... but this might not be moldy enough for him yet ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/sixth_amendment

The prosecution probably felt due to the negative press coveage, mcveigh and crew could not receive a fair trail in Oklahoma county. That said, many of the victims families were unable to travel to Denver due to jobs, money, etc.

They were cut out of the process.

Interesting observation. I recently read a book wherein the author talks about how interest declines as time marches on. Witnesses die off, the media stops talking about the OKC bombing, etc. etc. Here, in 2020, no one really cares.

Next.

And this has to be balanced against the right to a fair trial. That is why this and many many other trials have been moved.

https://federalcriminallawcenter.com/criminal-defense-services/pre-trials/motion-for-change-of-venue/

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During the denver trial, Mcveigh stared straight ahead as if in a trance. Through all of it, including an in-person interview with Barbara Walters, he never one time admitted to or confessed to doing it. I submit the guy could have easily been a CIA sleeper. Too many things about him do not add up.

Let's face reality. To pull off a bombing as cataclysmic as OKC, one needs a network, a network of others unknown who are very committed to pulling it off and who work well together as a team.

No one will ever convince me two yahoos rented a yellow ryder truck and pulled off the single largest bombing of a federal building on U.S. soil BY THEMSELVES. The two yahoos needed a close knit sophisticated terrorist network to pull it off.

That said, no one in the U.S. of A is interested in trying to locate the rest of the group and bringing them to justice. It is, after all, 2020 and the only thing the average American cares about is his cable television and a six pack of beer.

He could have been an alien from Alpha Centauri.

I though all you needed was a truck, diesel fuel and some fertilizer.

You think travel by car is safer than air travel so convincing you of anything by way of logic is a fools errand.

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I have the actual news coverage from CNN on a VHS tape from that day. It is some of the most intriguing news coverage I have ever viewed.

According to CNN, the so-called "truck bomb" began the day as a "1200 pound bomb", later on it grew to 2000, then 3000, then finally 5000 pounds seemed to be a good round number for the CNN news crew.

Another puzzling issue involved the calling out of the OKC bomb squad to diffuse an unexploded bomb that was lashed to one of the building's interior pillars. Upon arrival, the OKC bomb squad ordered the building evacuated and all rescue workers to clear the area while they diffused the bomb.

Farmers have been using ammonia nitrate bombs for years to blow up tree stumps, etc. They have enough explosive power to blow up tree stumps but are sadly lacking when it comes to taking down a building the size of the Murrah building. This may help explain why CNN insisted on increasing the poundage size of the truck bomb throughout the news day on April 19, 1995.

Here's the video from NBC news talking about a "1200 pound bomb".

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=oklahoma+city+bombing+CNN+truck+bomb+size+1200+pounds&view=detail&mid=36CC3A6CA0F7AE3932BC36CC3A6CA0F7AE3932BC&FORM=VIRE

Co-incidentally, Richard Wayne Snell was put to death on the same day, April 19, 1995. Notice in the article below his links to Elohim City, the supposed "white supremacist" compound where McVeigh was also known to hang out. In addition, Carol Howe, undercover ATF informant was working undercover at Elohim City. The judge in McVeigh's denver trial refused to allow her to testify. Something smells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Snell_(criminal)