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merc lover 02-10-2020 04:55 PM

Debtor's prison: When your doctor sleeps with both the judge and the lawyer.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coffeyville-kansas-medical-debt-county-in-rural-kansas-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/

Air&Road 02-10-2020 06:47 PM

Well, although people should most certainly be held accountable for ALL their debts, it’s difficult to know how they can have a chance of earning funds to square them while cooling their heels in jail.

Capt. Mike 02-10-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 4007931)
Well, although people should most certainly be held accountable for ALL their debts, it’s difficult to know how they can have a chance of earning funds to square them while cooling their heels in jail.

Indentured servitude is an option.

Not a great one, but an option.

merc lover 02-10-2020 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 4007931)
Well, although people should most certainly be held accountable for ALL their debts, it’s difficult to know how they can have a chance of earning funds to square them while cooling their heels in jail.


The private-for-profit-jails get paid for holding you in their jails. The judges are in on it and have a financial incentive for locking people up. They don't even need a good reason anymore to throw your a** in the dungeon.

vwnate1 02-10-2020 08:57 PM

So Then,
 
Tell me hm, who's to blame here ? .

Those awful leftists or the crazed alt righties ? .

merc lover 02-10-2020 08:57 PM

The particular type of lawyer who does this type of work is known as a Medical Bill Collection Lawyer. They make big money doing this type of work and they don't care if you are dying from cancer, they WILL COLLECT....one way or another!!!

vwnate1 02-10-2020 09:03 PM

As ALWAYS ;
 
hm doesn't really care, he just wants you to be as afraid as he is .

davidmash 02-10-2020 10:37 PM

The title is misleading. They were sent to jail for failure to appear not for failure to pay.

The medical debt issue is a separate issue and as a nation we should be embarrassed about it (but we are not). No body, much less a parent, should have to go into debt to save their kids or the life of anyone else.

merc lover 02-11-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 4008038)
The title is misleading. They were sent to jail for failure to appear not for failure to pay.

The medical debt issue is a separate issue and as a nation we should be embarrassed about it (but we are not). No body, much less a parent, should have to go into debt to save their kids or the life of anyone else.

Step back, take a deep breath and take a second look. The court has managed to cross-contaminate civil actions with criminal actions. When a defendant fails to appear on a civil matter, no arrest warrant issues. Normally, the judge merely enters a money judgement for the plaintiff. Call the next case, please.

This particular judge and his sidekick buddy lawyer have managed to turn a civil matter into a criminal matter. Gosh, I don't know about you but this really elevates my faith and trust in the so-called "system". I'm sure you feel the same.....

merc lover 02-11-2020 10:36 AM

Next thing you know, they'll start moving to collect any and all debt using the same criminal actions. If you or your family member manages to be one day late on credit card debt, mortgages, student loans, medical, car loans, the twenty bux you owe the neighbor's son for mowing your lawn off to the dungeon you go. I hear they serve up fine cuisine in the local lock-up.

barry12345 02-11-2020 02:56 PM

Many people cannot afford the loss of income sitting in a court. Waiting for their turn to be addressed. They have to work and the courts are not open weekends.

Most members on this site do not have to face all the various issues that a substantial percentage of the population have to face. Just because of a medical system that is stacked against them.

Many of the people that are satisfied with the status quo. May find the copays on a serious cancer case with themselves a real dose of cold water. You do have a few hundred thousand kicking around for this possibility? Simply as statistically it is far from a really remote possibility. Usually you will be tasked with a sporatic income while seriously ill. Plus the escalating accumulation of copays.

Reading between the lines a majority of the American population are going to be like deer in the headlights. The republicans are going to do a number on health care is almost certain if given the chance. Starting not long after Trump gets re elected. Premiums for health care have to double in cost to sustain what is over the next 10 years. Or deductables massively increased. The inflationary cost of health care is isolated from the general inflation costs. Compounded about 6-7 percent a year is not unrealistic.

merc lover 02-11-2020 04:18 PM

I have as few interactions with doctors and hospitals as I can. Besides the risk of getting sued and thrown into lock-up, their drug machine can kill you deader than a door nail.

thank you but no thank you.

rocky raccoon 02-11-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by merc lover (Post 4008262)
I have as few interactions with doctors and hospitals as I can. Besides the risk of getting sued and thrown into lock-up, their drug machine can kill you deader than a door nail.

thank you but no thank you.

... and anyone else I would bet. Mom sends his meals down to the basement with a dumbwaiter.

merc lover 02-11-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky raccoon (Post 4008267)
... and anyone else I would bet. Mom sends his meals down to the basement with a dumbwaiter.


Leading causes of death:

1. Heart Disease

2. Cancer

3. Pharmaceutical drugs

4. Doctors and hospitals


You can't do much about #1 and #2 but #3 and #4 you have control over.

merc lover 02-11-2020 05:58 PM

Aren't you happy I'm not running for political office?


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