Diesel Giant -Never Again

[warmblood58]

Folks, buy your parts from Phil at FastLane, I will never again deal with Diesel Giant, my two cents -overpriced and his policies are lacking customer service satisfaction

[leathermang]

I have been unhappy with Diesel Giant ever since he was promoting Duracool or Freeze12 or one of those ... and he is the slickest person I have ever seen... his DIY yourself on AC starts off like he is going to do it correctly with R12 or R134a then says something like " was out of that and so I used ' X"... I was amazed.

[pwogaman]

I just took a look through his web page again for the first time in a couple of years. The first thing that come to my mind is WOW! $21.00 for 6 o-rings!! You can get a set with a hundred from Harbor Freight for the same price. He is also selling leak stop. Might as well put molten lead in the system.

Nevertheless, his web page does have a lot of information and pictures.

[argon99]

Originally Posted by pwogaman

I just took a look through his web page again for the first time in a couple of years. The first thing that come to my mind is WOW! $21.00 for 6 o-rings!! You can get a set with a hundred from Harbor Freight for the same price. He is also selling leak stop. Might as well put molten lead in the system.

Nevertheless, his web page does have a lot of information and pictures.

Are you kidding? Do you really think the O-rings at HF are of the same quality?

This is a huge problem. The people that expect cheap crap to be of the same quality of the best. This is why it's getting harder and harder to buy quality anything these days. People buy the cheapest thing they can get their hands on so the company that makes quality parts makes nothing. They are forced to produce a crappy product just to stay in business..

I have to say the people that think a quality parts seller is ripping them off when they can buy the an inferior quality part for less elsewhere are just dim bulbs and I have little to no respect for their opinions.

[kerry]

Originally Posted by argon99

Are you kidding? Do you really think the O-rings at HF are of the same quality?

This is a huge problem. The people that expect cheap crap to be of the same quality of the best. This is why it's getting harder and harder to buy quality anything these days. People buy the cheapest thing they can get their hands on so the company that makes quality parts makes nothing. They are forced to produce a crappy product just to stay in business..

I have to say the people that think a quality parts seller is ripping them off when they can buy the an inferior quality part for less elsewhere are just dim bulbs and I have little to no respect for their opinions.

So you think $21 for 6 high quality o-rings is a reasonable price?

[pawoSD]

I think he just orders parts from all the other sites, then doubles or triples their price and sells them again.

That is business though, if there are people willing to pay that much.

[charmalu]

Originally Posted by pawoSD

I think he just orders parts from all the other sites, then doubles or triples their price and sells them again.

That is business though, if there are people willing to pay that much.

Maybe Obama can slip this as part of the health care reform
car care cost have gone through the roof, and these carmasudical company`s are making a killing off us poor hard working over taxed workers.

X2, That is business.

Ever had the dealer work on your car? or any other repair shop. $117 hr shop rate here in Santa cruz and more.

Charlie

[Skid Row Joe]

Why diesel?

Reasons why diesel engines are far superior to gasoline engines.
Far more torque. A typical gasoline engine has a torque to horsepower ratio of something like 0.9 : 1. A diesel on the other hand is more like 2.5 : 1 or even higher. Why is torque so important? Well, torque is what actually supplies the power to move the vehicle and anything you might be towing. Horsepower tells you how "quickly" you can apply that torque to the ground. A big rig might only have a 400 HP engine, but it also puts out 2000+ pound feet of torque. That's why a big rig goes up steep hills so slowly when he's loaded, but he can do that forever. If a big rig had a gas engine in it, he would slow down much sooner, and he would likely not even be able to make it up a really steep hill, because he would simply not have near enough torque to pull himself up the hill.

Not to pile on, but when I read this from the DG site ^^^ last Sunday night - something doesn't sound right about the torque pulling a big rig up a hill at speed - versus the horsepower that is doing the work. Is the above explanation of torque vs. horsepower, correctly applied physics?

[Diesel911]

Originally Posted by pawoSD

I think he just orders parts from all the other sites, then doubles or triples their price and sells them again.

That is business though, if there are people willing to pay that much.

That seems to be the issue. Is he a "Price Gouger" or a good Business Man?
I have made my own decision on that.
I think at a minimum your Customers should not feel like a "Sucker" after the transaction is over.

I am sure there are a lot for Business type people who would have admiration for his business since business in the end is about making profits.
Paraphrased from PT Barnum; There is a Sucker born every minute.

[450slcguy]

Originally Posted by Diesel911

That seems to be the issue. Is he a "Price Gouger" or a good Business Man?
I have made my own decision on that.
I think at a minimum your Customers should not feel like a "Sucker" after the transaction is over.

I am sure there are a lot for Business type people who would have admiration for his business since business in the end is about making profits.
Paraphrased from PT Barnum; There is a Sucker born every minute.

No reason to be price gouged when shopping on the net. If you got gouged, you simply didn't do your homework. When I buy on the net, I probably shop 10 different well known sites selling the same products. Sure there can be a huge price difference, but the savvy consumer makes an educated decision, not a naive purchase. To this day, I've never been "gouged" or taken advantage of.

[Diesel911]

Originally Posted by 450slcguy

No reason to be price gouged when shopping on the net. If you got gouged, you simply didn't do your homework. When I buy on the net, I probably shop 10 different well known sites selling the same products. Sure there can be a huge price difference, but the savvy consumer makes an educated decision, not a naive purchase. To this day, I've never been "gouged" or taken advantage of.

I agree to certain piont.
(I have not bought anything from Diesel Giant.)

I am guessing the point of this thread is Education of the potential customer.

But, to me it is an ethics question. If I opened a business and charged 3 times as much for an item to customers who had some expectation that that prices would be somewhere close to the average price of an item; is that ethical?

As I indicated in a previous post you could view Diesel Giant as being an exceptional Businessman or not depending on how you want to view it.

Clearly his policies are starting to starting to get some negative back-lash that might have an effect on profits.

[compress ignite]

Important Notice to Netizens: You're on the Web!

Never done business with the Guy.
His policies are his.'Kinda nice of him to state them up-front.
You're an Adult (Hopefully)...Don't relish the interaction...free to go elsewhere.

[Side note: 'With all the incredible Slimy,Backhanded,Blindsiding,Perfidy that
styles itself as "Bizzness" [I.E. U.S. Chamber.Etc.,Etc.],in a Republic (this ain't
no Democracy), where the Emperor(s) are lobbyists ,This guy is Stellar by
comparison.]

'Mind you Grumbling(Gripes) is the Life Blood in my Arteries.

Next thing you know I'll read that he's been Forcibly,Involuntarily anointed
a Used Car Dealer.

Caveat Emptor is not a Breakfast food.

Renntag + Diesel911,

Someone wants to dictate what style and color of PF ,and then induce you to
finance it for 20 years...After telling you where and how you might use it.

Really! Internet "Pricelining" used to be FUN,now it's a second or third job.

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by 450slcguy

No reason to be price gouged when shopping on the net. If you got gouged, you simply didn't do your homework. When I buy on the net, I probably shop 10 different well known sites selling the same products. Sure there can be a huge price difference, but the savvy consumer makes an educated decision, not a naive purchase. To this day, I've never been "gouged" or taken advantage of.

What is "price gouging" who is "price gouging," when and where is the "price gouging" going on? Needs to be defined to have any value....


An aftermarket indy parts house on Northwest Hwy. & Jupiter in Dallas, TX. - All Auto Parts -where people driving imports flock to to buy parts - quoted a price of nearly $20.00 for a Sylvania brand replacement headlamp bulb on an E300TD - whilst the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Dallas, TX. Park Place Motorcars sold me the MB brand/packaged headlamp bulb for $11.00 and change the next day.

Many members here often make a blanket statement that; ALL MB dealers "price gouge" calling them "stealerships."

In the above specific example I gave - which outfit is doing the "stealershipping??"

[Matt L]

Remember this thread?

We need more members like DIESELGIANT!!

[Diesel911]

Originally Posted by Matt L

Remember this thread?

We need more members like DIESELGIANT!!

Thanks; I added a post to that thread.