Another vote for the Lenovo Thinkpad/T-series. Having worked in IT and run a private computer service, nothing in the Wintel world stands up better or lasts longer (without going into a purpose-built hard-use machine like the Panasonic Toughbook). They're in the same league as Apple as far as the build quality and longevity goes, not to mention spare parts are available long after production ends since they're very popular with corporate users (due to their durability).

Dell tends to get a lot of praise from people who don't have to service them. They're not well built, they don't perform well, they don't last as long as their competition, and the hardware is often inferior or "dumbed down" out of the box. You'll pay more money for a lesser machine.

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Current stable:
1995 E320 157K (Nancy)
1983 500SL 125K (SLoL)

Gone but not forgotten:
1986 300SDL (RIP)
1991 350SD
1991 560SEL
1990 560SEL
1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!)

Gone and wanting to forget:
1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) [Definitely NOT a Benz]

I have a Lenovo X1 Carbon that I am very happy with.

In my 10 year corporate world they have always been IBM/Lenovo thinkpads. And have stood up well from anything the office could throw at it, and then anyplace I needed to bring it in the warehouse, conveyor repair or power plant spaces (but only briefly)
Panasonic toughbooks come with a good reputation, but not sure where the money is - Id imagine they are expensive.
There are 'rugged' and 'semi-rugged' toughbooks as - we have a lot of semi-ruggeds around the power plants and they do hold up well (to dirt, dust, drops etc. The semi-ruggeds arent submersible, but otherwise hold up well.

Do you need help with processor/RAM numbers ? that is a different world ("is a 5th generation i3 better than a 2nd generation i5 ?") that no one here has addressed yet.

-John

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Ah. Great information based on experience. Thanks.

Get a 10th Gen processor. Don’t cheap out on that, i5 might be all you need, but always go with the latest generation processor that meets your needs. And get 16 Gigs of RAM.

Oh, and buy it with a credit card that extends the warranty.

My daughter went back to school to be a PA, so I bought her a new macbook air. I had her order the i5 with 16 Gigs of RAM and the 512 SSD. I told her to sign up for a credit card with extended warranty, and this one gave $200 cash back if you spend X amount of dollars, etc.

If you laptop, you pretty much need a new one every few years. That’s why I like my desktop: I can just swap in new components at will. The case never needs replacement, I have hard drives all over the place for back ups. I always go with the latest processor, mb, and extra ram to future-proof the rig. I stopped gaming, so the old video card still works for my light-duty use; nothing more than the stripped down Photoshop Elements.

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You could install Windows on a Mac laptop if you already own one or alternatively use Parallels or another VM that allow you to run Windows programs within MacOS if you don't need to connect to external devices.

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You're about forty years behind the news, but keep cranking. I'm sure you'll catch up.

husky man only chimed in so he could say something negative .

He's an adult in years but about 12 mentally, sad to say .

In any case, I'm also old and decades behind the times, I thought Dell made decent stuff and so grabbed a fancy schmancy lap top when it was a couple months old for less than 1/3rd the original price, now it's three years old and the memory stick failed, I lost all my data and the screws holding part of the case together didn't go back in because the plastic was so brittle it shattered .

The folks I know who do music and art on the computer seem to like Apple products, I found them hard to use and tossed the damn thins out as a total lo$$....


My old HP lap top was a thing of reliability right until it went tits up at 15 years old....

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I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Bot - in terms of "lots of memory" are you talking about storage or RAM? My assumption is ram if you are doing any statistical modeling. Otherwise all of the points are addressed by pretty much any entry level windows laptop. I would also recommend lenovo, they have been the best in my experiencd over the years. My work dells have been pretty crappy and the HP units I have gotten refurb'd are hit or miss long term.

The larger "standard" laptops (i.e. not a surface air or the super duper thin form factor ones) are fairly modular and upgradable with ram and HDD/SSDs if you need to bump anything up.

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Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth

It all comes down to this: marketing. Bill Gate's repeated efforts to knock competitors out of the way is well documented both within the world of software and without. Novell's NetWare product went from being #1 for quite a number of years to second place FOR A REASON.

Just because a man has millions or billions at his disposal doesn't mean he has any marbles rolling around between his ears. Gate's exploited this anomaly and it WORKED.

I've spent a number of years watching millionaires and billionaires make some of the stupidest decisions a man or woman could make. I used to think if they had money that made them MENSA. Was I ever wrong.

Some examples please? Based on past dealings with you, I call BS. Every time you make a *STUPID* statement and get caught in your lies, you back yourself in a corner and make even *STUPIDER* statements. Just the HM cycle huh?

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Current stable:
1995 E320 157K (Nancy)
1983 500SL 125K (SLoL)

Gone but not forgotten:
1986 300SDL (RIP)
1991 350SD
1991 560SEL
1990 560SEL
1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!)

Gone and wanting to forget:
1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) [Definitely NOT a Benz]

Listen slick, everyone from governments to the local grocery store magnet make stupid stupid mistakes. You don't have to look far, just open your curtains or blinds and take a look outside. morons everywhere in every economic strata.

@ T.M.:

Yu're obviously wrong as husky man has told us repedtedly that he's a lawyer, a judge's advocate, a captain of industry, a fabulously wealthy man highly educated, on and on....

He always knows better than anyone else about simply everything so get down on your knees and apologize RIGHT NOW before he gets upset and leaves this forum.... .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

From what I gather, you have spent most of your years on this planet working for the government.