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Old 05-24-2021, 12:24 AM
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The Typ III came to North America in 1963 as a 1964 model, things really took off in 1965 and in 1966 they changed to front disc brakes and larger rear brakes, the rear brake shoes are the same ones used on the new 1971 Super Beetle .

Take your time cleaning the fuel tank , I use a dilute solution of Phosphoric Acid , it will cut right through the old dried up fuel and rust and not damage the steel .

No matter what, DO NOT get fooled into using Muriatic Acid as it will eat the good steel too ! .

The fuel pump's failure to operate is usually caused by the safety relay under the back seat on the driver's side frame rail ~ gently and carefully remove each wire in turn and check for good contact, polish the male blades and check to see if the wire strands are broken in the female push ons .

DO NOT SAND OR ABRADE ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS ! polish them using any metal polish or cleaner wax and a cloth .

Some times one can whack the relay on the side with a plastic screwdriver handle as you're cranking the starter. other times it' easiest to by pass that relay but beware ~ FIRE DANGER ! 32 PSI means a LOT of gasoline will come out in case of any leak .

For testing I just use a wire with alligator clips on it, do not run the pump's power draw through the ignition switch ! .

The pump has two standard push on male connectors, the power one is marked (in tiny numbers) "15" and the ground side is marked "31" .

The pump has metal screens in it's suction nipple, be sure to clean this out of debris .

As you're changing the fuel hoses underneath the tank beware there's a damper and it's easy to mix the short hose bits up if you undo more than one at a time .

There's images On-line or in the shop manual, make a copy or print it out and drag under the car with you to easily keep track .

The color looks nice, I bet it's not as bad as you think and can be polished up then waxed to look fine in spite of chips and dings .

More later or if you but ask .

Me, I want you to post up every detail no matter how small, no one is forced to read it .

The key should match the door so any competent lock smith can make you new keys for under $20 is they're honest .

Be smart and have at least three keys made ~ one to use, one for a spare and the third for when you loose the other two .

Bummer about the neighborhood ~ I live in the Ghetto and so have had all your issues and worse, I waited the po' folks out and things are slowly getting better after nearly 40 years .

Fencing and dog and lights at night will help more than you'd think ~ the bad ones will break in no matter what, all you're trying to do is convince them to go after some other house that's dark and an easier target .

Good night .

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Old 05-24-2021, 02:08 AM
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The Typ III came to North America in 1963 as a 1964 model, things really took off in 1965 and in 1966 they changed to front disc brakes and larger rear brakes, the rear brake shoes are the same ones used on the new 1971 Super Beetle .
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The "Saxomat" semi - automatic transmission was only in Beetles, no other VW had them .

The Typ III's were available with a fully automatic three speed .
Appreciate sharing the history with the others.

Only the Squareback came in August 1963, the USA never got the Notchback officially, though some came from Canada and servicemen/women. The Fastback came August 1967, also when D-Jetronic (D for Druck which means pressure, as the system mostly uses pressure to make the computations) and the Borg Warner 003 fully automatic transmission. Fun fact, Volkswagen was the first manufacture to have electric FI on production vehicles (Mercedes had mechanical and very few SLs produced).

1971 model year is an odd model, for example, the steering column is one year only, as early model with changed splines, and one year only turn signal switch (unique contacts) and ignition lock and switch. The splines remained for the rest of production, with a late model wheel.
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:09 AM
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A lot to reply to, good thing I am sick and can't sleep. ;P

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Take your time cleaning the fuel tank , I use a dilute solution of Phosphoric Acid , it will cut right through the old dried up fuel and rust and not damage the steel .
I already used new expired brake fluid (knowing once a can is opened, has about a year shelf life). I will see if have some Phosphoric Acid, used to use it for converting rust before found EvapoRust (though we see what that did even super diluted).


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No matter what, DO NOT get fooled into using Muriatic Acid as it will eat the good steel too ! .
Oh wow! Appreciate telling us.


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The fuel pump's failure to operate is usually caused by the safety relay under the back seat on the driver's side frame rail ~ gently and carefully remove each wire in turn and check for good contact, polish the male blades and check to see if the wire strands are broken in the female push ons .
Okay.


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DO NOT SAND OR ABRADE ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS ! polish them using any metal polish or cleaner wax and a cloth .
Yes, when just starting out about 15 years ago I was told to sand and believed. Never thought to use metal polish, totally makes sense. Ruby came with wad polish and a tin of cream (which I used today and don't think have any nose hair left, all burned away LOL).


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Some times one can whack the relay on the side with a plastic screwdriver handle as you're cranking the starter. other times it' easiest to by pass that relay but beware ~ FIRE DANGER ! 32 PSI means a LOT of gasoline will come out in case of any leak .
I have bypassed in the past, I corrected that after someone told me of a fatality because of bypassing the pump (they survived the initial crash).

By the way, a mechanic trained by Volkswagen back in the 1960s taught us to bump the pressure to 34psi for a bit more pep, does work. Makes the mixture a little more rich and a stronger spray.


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For testing I just use a wire with alligator clips on it, do not run the pump's power draw through the ignition switch ! .
How do you mean? If was hooking up power, why not go off the fuse box, fused side?


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The pump has two standard push on male connectors, the power one is marked (in tiny numbers) "15" and the ground side is marked "31" .
Or red and brown.


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The pump has metal screens in it's suction nipple, be sure to clean this out of debris .
I don't think the Airtex has screens, plus never even been installed.


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As you're changing the fuel hoses underneath the tank beware there's a damper and it's easy to mix the short hose bits up if you undo more than one at a time .
Yes, mine still has the damper.

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There's images On-line or in the shop manual, make a copy or print it out and drag under the car with you to easily keep track .
I can see which is supply and return, though certainly best to get a diagram. The difference is my Y has gone missing, back when I was young and unorganized...

Oh and she is on axle stands (which might have caused the body to warp as now the doors are not shutting correctly after up there for seven years) so just reach in from the wheel well.


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The color looks nice, I bet it's not as bad as you think and can be polished up then waxed to look fine in spite of chips and dings .
It's thin, not sure can take another buff. Plus, both rockers and one pillar bottom (sunroof drain rot from living most of her life on a peninsula surrounded by salt water) need replacing. I still need to finish Ruby's paint buffing, life got in the way, now more important to get them in the back.


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More later or if you but ask .
What does this mean, please?


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Me, I want you to post up every detail no matter how small, no one is forced to read it .
Well, I was reorganizing the eat-in kitchen (no dining room) and found my forgotten key bowl, for keys needing on a rare occasion (like a set for the house I grew up in). In there, found some Volkswagen keys, one for a Squareback I parted out ages ago (somewhere have the lock set) and... A set of keys, door and glove box, for Baby! Wahoo!

Since sick today, been looking through parts catalogs to find other items to offset shipping just the fuel filters.


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The key should match the door so any competent lock smith can make you new keys for under $20 is they're honest .
Mark charges $28. I got the key on Friday, doesn't work. Being I am still working on social skills and theory of mind, got through his seeming thin skin (he been using all capitalization to yell at me). I don't remember seeing a mention of checking the driver door handle, which I was informed in the letter to do. Turns out the left is stamped K code and apparently some point in her life, all four locks changed to M, which is stamped on the driver handle! See, this surprises me, especially since all the rubber seals are/were severely cracked, so look original.


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Be smart and have at least three keys made ~ one to use, one for a spare and the third for when you loose the other two .
Swear I had three door keys, either when I move or die maybe turn up, ha.

I am thinking to see if my Sister would accept a set, since she be the one to settle my estate.

Mark also suggests having a picture of the key stored in a cloud.


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Bummer about the neighborhood ~ I live in the Ghetto and so have had all your issues and worse, I waited the po' folks out and things are slowly getting better after nearly 40 years .
I'm hoping it will come up, though this lady I am dating is not local, and if this does work out, be moving down there as where all her family is (nothing keeping me here except a few friends which can always come up and see). Plus, she is more than open to a bespoke house and I rather be living more rural (seems she too as loves the mountains, goes often on a drive to them).

By the way, the lady asked to see what I been doing with the vehicles, sent her a link to Ruby's thread, and she at least scanned over the entirety. She was amazed how much goes into a restoration.

40 years?! Wow, not many live in there homes that long, bet you have seen a lot.


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Fencing and dog and lights at night will help more than you'd think ~ the bad ones will break in no matter what, all you're trying to do is convince them to go after some other house that's dark and an easier target .
My understanding is the break ins are houses along the canal, drive up, easy to hop the barely five foot wall, get in, back over, and drive off on the path (supposed to be Salt River Project trucks, however, no gates). I am fortunate the street light is in front of my house, don't keep the porch light on. Also, if the front door is open (security screen locked), I put something heavy in the walk way, out of the light of the street lamp in such a way they at least bump into and disturb the dogs. Just in case, I do have a real wood Louisville slugger from the trash (never played baseball) near the bed.


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Good night .
Good night to you too.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:32 AM
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FWIW, the Fastback was introduced to North America in 1963 for the 1964 year model : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdf9ea2olQ

Watch the short T.V. advert, it's clever and you'll likely recognize the tiny if famous actor in the early part of his long career .

More notchbacks came in through Canada than most realize ~ they were upmarket and $pendy cars to buy, one more "Beetle replacement" that didn't quite make the cut in spite of them being wonderful cars .

When making electrical tests avoid the fuse box ~ you want to isolate the item in question ,

You can easily make up test leads, I've used zip cord removed from discarded appliances, T.V. sets etc....

Solder the ends, you'll be happier if you do .

Yes, the D.I.N. wire color and number codes : #15 / black is always unfused switched power from the ignition key .

#13 /brown is always a ground wire .

Red is always UNFUSED POWER so be careful with it .

Brown with a white tracer is switched ground .

I used to know all this by heart when I was a VW Mechanic .

You're right about bumping the fuel pressure but remember : the pressure control valve should only be touched / adjusted with the engine running .

There are also better design fuel injectors that spray better patterns, increasing both power and fuel economy .

I don't know whom "Mark" is, maybe a person here who does German locks & keys on the side ? .

If you have spare handles it's an easy if fiddly & tedious thing to take the lock cylinders apart and shuffled / modify the wafers to make the door locks match the ignition key .

Don't waste an instant trying to take the ignition lock cylinder apart .

You needn't polish/buff the paint, use a goo quality polymer wax and a natural sponge, do it by hand after you've washed the panel and you'll be well pleased with the results ~ it'll still be scratched and dented but it'll shine and be sealed to protect against rusting and the stains will be reduced or removed completely .

Folks always talk about how great my beaters look because I hand wax them once a year ~ up close they're full of scrathes and small dents etc. (Ghetto life, sigh) but the dust washes off easily and I like the shiny reflections in the original paint .

Restoration is nice, I used to do them but for a fun car you'll actually enjoy and not worry about, just keep after it .

Bet of luck with the lady ! .

I'm one of those who took a long time to learn but the upside was that when a really good one came along I knew it and we're still together twenty plus years later... (wish me luck) .

If she doesn't mind your hobbies that's one of the biggest plusses there is ~ my ex wife was and still is beautiful but never liked my cars, trucks and Motocycles plus she hated that I was a mechainc and came home greasy every night....

I forgot about the blue seat picture, I'll try to get it to-day, you were supposed to remind me as I always keep more on my plate than I can possibly accomplish so when a job needs parts or has other stalling point I still have what to do .

I just finished a marathon of 722.117 slush box tranny service and adjusting, it's only a whisker away from shifting like it did when new now .
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Anyone need a Type 3 official service manual 68-73?
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Is it the Bently book ? .
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Nate, I thought I replied to this, however, looks like I didn't, so will do.


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FWIW, the Fastback was introduced to North America in 1963 for the 1964 year model :
I looked it up, it was August 1965.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdf9ea2olQ

Watch the short T.V. advert, it's clever and you'll likely recognize the tiny if famous actor in the early part of his long career .
Amusing, thanks. Impressive how he can bounce around inside. LOL I have no interest in actors and actresses a my logical mind already has difficulty with imagination (I love reading non-fiction, so much to learn) and if know someone is acting because know their real name, then I can't focus and quiet the brain (inside my head is like 10 to 20 televisions on different programs all the time).


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More notchbacks came in through Canada than most realize ~ they were upmarket and $pendy cars to buy, one more "Beetle replacement" that didn't quite make the cut in spite of them being wonderful cars .
Mercedes and Volkswagen were picky what they send to the USA, thinking there not be a single one that want a five speed behind an OM617 while not burning their arse as they are sitting on cloth, or want a plane Jane sedan with a bit more comfort than a Beetle. I did get the impression by what he said, in the mid to late 1970s if he could have gotten a Notchback, would have.


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When making electrical tests avoid the fuse box ~ you want to isolate the item in question ,
And turns out the other end too...


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You can easily make up test leads, I've used zip cord removed from discarded appliances, T.V. sets etc....
Okay.


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Solder the ends, you'll be happier if you do .
Same with on vehicle wiring, just wasn't good at it as had a crummy torch. Now that I have an okay one, can do okay soldering. So, going to the Mercedes and re-doing the butt connector.


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Yes, the D.I.N. wire color and number codes : #15 / black is always unfused switched power from the ignition key .

#13 /brown is always a ground wire .

Red is always UNFUSED POWER so be careful with it .

Brown with a white tracer is switched ground .

I used to know all this by heart when I was a VW Mechanic .
I did too.


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You're right about bumping the fuel pressure but remember : the pressure control valve should only be touched / adjusted with the engine running .
Okay.


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There are also better design fuel injectors that spray better patterns, increasing both power and fuel economy .
D-Jetronic takes a unique connector, so how does that work? Does the flow rate differ?


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I don't know whom "Mark" is, maybe a person here who does German locks & keys on the side ? .
Oops, sorry about my brain being in a fog. Yes, Mark and Gabriel are the only ones, the latter has had poor customer service especially response to email, thus why I went with the former. After Mark got nasty, contacted Gabriel and got a quick reply that he will sell just blanks.


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If you have spare handles it's an easy if fiddly & tedious thing to take the lock cylinders apart and shuffled / modify the wafers to make the door locks match the ignition key .
Okay, appreciate knowing that.


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Don't waste an instant trying to take the ignition lock cylinder apart .
Okay.


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You needn't polish/buff the paint, use a goo quality polymer wax and a natural sponge, do it by hand after you've washed the panel and you'll be well pleased with the results ~ it'll still be scratched and dented but it'll shine and be sealed to protect against rusting and the stains will be reduced or removed completely .
Well I am almost done with Ruby, will try on Baby. So then what is a good quality polymer wax?


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Folks always talk about how great my beaters look because I hand wax them once a year ~ up close they're full of scrathes and small dents etc. (Ghetto life, sigh) but the dust washes off easily and I like the shiny reflections in the original paint .
Exactly, doesn't have to be perfect, just protected and looking good going down the road.


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Restoration is nice, I used to do them but for a fun car you'll actually enjoy and not worry about, just keep after it .
I do want to at least fully restore Ruby, she will be just short trips and do like Dad and I and part at the fringe of the parking lot. If gets a ding, I can fix it myself.



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Bet of luck with the lady ! .
Appreciate the well wishes. Last Sunday was our first in person date, went to a museum, Church with her Dad, lunch with her and her folks, and then just the two of us saw most of the Tucson art museum. I really like her folks, they are certainly interesting, especially there odd humor. Not only do I want to go back to see her, also to see her folks.


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I'm one of those who took a long time to learn but the upside was that when a really good one came along I knew it and we're still together twenty plus years later... (wish me luck) .
I do! Women can either make or break life and I hope yours makes your life for many more years.

By the way, I too feel I have got a great one, though we need to work on communication, mostly me as I am used to a lady making all the decisions.


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If she doesn't mind your hobbies that's one of the biggest plusses there is ~ my ex wife was and still is beautiful but never liked my cars, trucks and Motocycles plus she hated that I was a mechainc and came home greasy every night....
She not only doesn't mind, finds restorations interesting. Her Dad was a machinist, so maybe that helps. She has apparently been to automotive show(s) and suggested we go to one in October. By the way, I hate grease in the house, I get clean and changed in the garage.


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I just finished a marathon of 722.117 slush box tranny service and adjusting, it's only a whisker away from shifting like it did when new now .
All done? How is it?

I didn't have the vacuum tool to do all the adjustments, just did the shift adjustment to firm it up to European specification. Loved it! An unexpected benefit was the ability to shift up and down with moderate foot pressure on the throttle.
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I'm guessing you didn't like the picture of the blue European seat I sent you, it's still sitting out there and will eventually go to the scrap .

Wax is *very* subjective .

I'm using 'Granitize' polymer wet coat wax now, I first clean and polish the paint then I just hand wax the paint once a year or so .

IIRC "The Wax Shop" made seriously good products but were way out of my financial reach .

Any VW made after 8.65 would be a 1='66 model, the Tip II's all got front disc brakes and 4 lug wheels in '66 and I well remember doing brake works on earlier drum braked fastbacks , square backs and so on...

That actor was in fact a really tiny guy ~ that's how he was able to cleverly slip between the front seats .

Yes, not only models but colors were available in Europe that the U.S.A. never got .

Most of the differences that folks like, bumpers, amber turn signal lenses , bulb in headlights and so on, were because of short sighted U.S.A. regulations, no choice by the company .

I use s Weller soldering gun for my electrical soldering needs ~ it seems to work far better than any soldering iron .

I use heat shrink tubing too and in any weather applicable repair I coat the soldered repair with dielectric grease after soldering .

The improved D-jet fuel injectors have a better spray pattern, one typ is disc, the other is pintle typ . slightly more expen$ive to manufacture but works better longer and more accurately and anything that helps meter fuel flow more accurately, increased power and fuel economy .

I imagine there are good you tube videos on how to re key old Heif / Neimann lock cylinders....

Once you get the hang of it you'll be able to do your house locks , I've done vintage British car locks too....

Best of luck with your lady, that's a minefield I don't know enough about to give much advice I don't think .

I tell my Foster boys not to settle ~ try as many as they can whilst they're young .

Women are like the bus ~ if you don't like the ride of the one you're on wait a little while, the next one may be much cleaner .

The neat thing is : once you're past 40 years old there are like three + women for every man so you can be as choosy as you like .

I'm tickled pink with how my '82 240D shifts now, I need to go back and up date my 722.117 tranny thread .
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Old 06-24-2021, 12:49 PM
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Talking So many questions because there was so many comments.

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I'm guessing you didn't like the picture of the blue European seat I sent you, it's still sitting out there and will eventually go to the scrap .
It went from two seat covers to one whole seat and the Service Dog's health insurance monthly cost went up a lot (not easy when on no income).


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Wax is *very* subjective .
When someone asks someone, they are asking what works for them. Then the one asking can make his/her own decision based on his/her experience if so chooses. It be rude for this latter person to inist how great some other product is, when the one answering clearly has had his/her experience say otherwise.


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I'm using 'Granitize' polymer wet coat wax now, I first clean and polish the paint then I just hand wax the paint once a year or so .
Ha! I said I was polishing, said no need for that, just this wax, guess I do have to continue polishing. On a serious note, it is now on my Amazon wishlist for when I have the bread, thank you for sharing.


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IIRC "The Wax Shop" made seriously good products but were way out of my financial reach .
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Any VW made after 8.65 would be a 1='66 model, the Tip II's all got front disc brakes and 4 lug wheels in '66 and I well remember doing brake works on earlier drum braked fastbacks , square backs and so on...
Das stimmt.


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That actor was in fact a really tiny guy ~ that's how he was able to cleverly slip between the front seats .
Yes, one can clearly see Dustin is small, though he is 5'-6" so not that far from the average 5'-10" male. I'm 6'-2", had a three inch growth spurt when 27 and a half, by the way. Now I don't fit into American and most Asian vehicles without hitting my head or my hat (usually a bowler in Summer and a flat cap in Winter).


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Yes, not only models but colors were available in Europe that the U.S.A. never got .
Yes, that too. Anne was originally painted that wonderful metallic petrol blue, then for some reason Mercedes changed to Schwarz blau. If I could keep her, I was thinking since the roof needs paint, do the roof in the petrol blue. I would love to have a green W123 wagen with green paint and green cloth interior.


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Most of the differences that folks like, bumpers, amber turn signal lenses , bulb in headlights and so on, were because of short sighted U.S.A. regulations, no choice by the company .
That is true also, didn't think needed saying since obvious. Actually, the USA bumpers on Mercedes are stronger to a point, however, now with how fast folks go, neither be any use.


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I use s Weller soldering gun for my electrical soldering needs ~ it seems to work far better than any soldering iron .
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I use heat shrink tubing too and in any weather applicable repair I coat the soldered repair with dielectric grease after soldering .
I shrink tube also. Great idea about using the coper grease, appreciated. When I removed the dampers on Ruby, Dad had used copper grease, so even after he had passed, still learning from him. Now anything metal with male threads gets grease, even brake line fittings being sure not to get it on the tip. Never again will I have to fight with seized parts! Wahoo!


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The improved D-jet fuel injectors have a better spray pattern, one typ is disc, the other is pintle typ . slightly more expen$ive to manufacture but works better longer and more accurately and anything that helps meter fuel flow more accurately, increased power and fuel economy .
So how about a part number or a way to find them?


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I imagine there are good you tube videos on how to re key old Heif / Neimann lock cylinders....
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Once you get the hang of it you'll be able to do your house locks , I've done vintage British car locks too....
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Best of luck with your lady, that's a minefield I don't know enough about to give much advice I don't think .
I don't feel it is a minefield as she don't mind it and I will be clean about it. If she says not spending enough time with her, then so be it, I will set the tools down and spend time. We been able to talk through things, so we can talk through this.


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I tell my Foster boys not to settle ~ try as many as they can whilst they're young .
I have had three before this one, can tell you this one is very different. Plus, I am no longer young, missed the opportunity to date when I was.


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Women are like the bus ~ if you don't like the ride of the one you're on wait a little while, the next one may be much cleaner .
This ride is so smooth I don't feel it.


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The neat thing is : once you're past 40 years old there are like three + women for every man so you can be as choosy as you like .
The trouble is a good number are high mileage and look like it.


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I'm tickled pink with how my '82 240D shifts now, I need to go back and up date my 722.117 tranny thread .
Great, glad it worked out.
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Talking WHEEEE !

Okay, here we go :

I prefer liquid waxes so when I was doing used cars (I'd buy anything if it was all one color and a chalky Earl Schieb Paint job was a plus !) so I'd wash then use liquid green Turtle Wax in the glass bottle, this is a slightly abrasive polish / wax that cleaned off the chalky paint, reduced "orange peel" significantly and cleaned up rust stains, spray paint and so on then I'd go over it again with a liquid "Ploymer Wetcoat" wax .

The waxing medium is IMO critical, I still use only natural cellulose sponges, chap at any Dollar Store .

The rags too are critical , I prefer cotton and have many 50 + year old ones I re wash .

I've tried the modern micro-fiber rags and they work well, not as good as cotton tho' .

If you like the current gloss and simply want to save it and make it glossier, try the Polymer Wetcoat .I doubt the brand makes much difference, once I find a thing that works I rarely change .

No sweat about the seat, too bad we don't have anyone to freight it East to HOTazona, I'll try to give it away for a while yet, it's comfy and no broken springs .

I hope I wasn't rude.....

FWIW, I'm a Dustin Hoffman fan, was from way back when, I'm old ya know .

RE : European bumpers : Mercedes basically used tin foil ~ I have European gasser bumpers on my 300CD, they're incredibly delicate and beautiful but if I hit a spaniel my car will be ruined beyond repair .

European Diesel bumpers are *slightly* stronger but less beautiful .

Weller Soldering guns can be had cheaply : https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311&_nkw=weller+soldering+gun&_sacat=0

If you possibly can, buy one with the plastic box, it prevents damage, they're *very* delicate .

I use thrift stores and pawn shops a lot ~ often they'll have one of these big black heavy mothers that won't get hot although you can feel & hear the transformer inside buzzing when you pull the trigger ~ offer $5 for it and replace the tip, the tips need periodic replacement anyways .

Yard, garage and tag sales are also good places to get one for < $5 .

NOT copper grease ! .

DIELECTRIC GREASE is non conductive and so prevents corrosion .

There are copper and nickle based (what I prefer) greases and anti - seize compounds, they're different and meant for fasteners .

There is a specific brake assembly grease, I'd not use any other grease on the threaded hydraulic parts .

To find the pintle typ D-Jetronic fuel injectors you'll have to talk to the Japanese car nutters ('enthusiasts') they're who hipped me to this and I no longer have anything D-Jet equipped, sorry .

As it turns, I'm rather fond of "Cha-Cha Girls" (and have the physical scars and police reports to prove it ) it turns out you can have an older high mileage model lady and she'll still be pretty .

Good luck ~ most guys like my ladies but anyone who takes advice in that area from me is a fool .

FWIW, I was 35 when I got cut loose and banged the drum so loudly for the next few years I bet they heard it in BOSTON .

No regrets, I find women over 40 to be far better in every respect .
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Painting the roof on a Squareback white not only makes it look far better as it increases curb appeal, it also keep you cooler inside .

There used to be discarded graymarket Typ III's littering America, not so much anymore .

As a Mechanic I'd look for the best body and paint I could find, the rest is gravy IMO .
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Yipeeeeeeee!

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Okay, here we go :

I prefer liquid waxes so when I was doing used cars (I'd buy anything if it was all one color and a chalky Earl Schieb Paint job was a plus !) so I'd wash then use liquid green Turtle Wax in the glass bottle, this is a slightly abrasive polish / wax that cleaned off the chalky paint, reduced "orange peel" significantly and cleaned up rust stains, spray paint and so on then I'd go over it again with a liquid "Ploymer Wetcoat" wax .
If you had not noticed, liquid Turtle no longer comes in a glass bottle.

I am using a polishing compound, IIRC (get them mixed up).


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The waxing medium is IMO critical, I still use only natural cellulose sponges, chap at any Dollar Store .
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The rags too are critical , I prefer cotton and have many 50 + year old ones I re wash .

I've tried the modern micro-fiber rags and they work well, not as good as cotton tho' .
Turns out microfiber is a plastic so scratches the paint.


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If you like the current gloss and simply want to save it and make it glossier, try the Polymer Wetcoat .I doubt the brand makes much difference, once I find a thing that works I rarely change .
Ruby was really oxidized and Baby only has a light amount that mostly came off when washing. So both need attention, one way more than the other, so just waxing I don't think will suffice?


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No sweat about the seat, too bad we don't have anyone to freight it East to HOTazona, I'll try to give it away for a while yet, it's comfy and no broken springs .
It is what it is.


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I hope I wasn't rude.....
Ditto.


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FWIW, I'm a Dustin Hoffman fan, was from way back when, I'm old ya know .
What is his best movie?

I honestly didn't understand the Graduate...


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RE : European bumpers : Mercedes basically used tin foil ~ I have European gasser bumpers on my 300CD, they're incredibly delicate and beautiful but if I hit a spaniel my car will be ruined beyond repair .
The 280TE still has her original bumpers.


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European Diesel bumpers are *slightly* stronger but less beautiful .
Why the difference? How are they different?


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Weller Soldering guns can be had cheaply : https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311&_nkw=weller+soldering+gun&_sacat=0

If you possibly can, buy one with the plastic box, it prevents damage, they're *very* delicate .
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I use thrift stores and pawn shops a lot ~ often they'll have one of these big black heavy mothers that won't get hot although you can feel & hear the transformer inside buzzing when you pull the trigger ~ offer $5 for it and replace the tip, the tips need periodic replacement anyways .

Yard, garage and tag sales are also good places to get one for < $5 .
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NOT copper grease ! .

DIELECTRIC GREASE is non conductive and so prevents corrosion .
I use Liqui Moly as know can be trusted, looks like this is it? See how says prevents corrosion and for electrical connections?

https://www.amazon.com/Mahipey-Moly-3140-Batteriepolfett-50/dp/B00295DB46?th=1


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There are copper and nickle based (what I prefer) greases and anti - seize compounds, they're different and meant for fasteners .
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There is a specific brake assembly grease, I'd not use any other grease on the threaded hydraulic parts .
I tried finding, only found anti-squeal grease.

Mind indulging curiosity? Both or cut from steel, right? So long as the grease is not entering the hydraulic fluid system, why does it matter?


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To find the pintle typ D-Jetronic fuel injectors you'll have to talk to the Japanese car nutters ('enthusiasts') they're who hipped me to this and I no longer have anything D-Jet equipped, sorry .
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As it turns, I'm rather fond of "Cha-Cha Girls" (and have the physical scars and police reports to prove it ) it turns out you can have an older high mileage model lady and she'll still be pretty .
Well, some women care for their coachwork more than others. I have seen some women in their 30s that looked like they were in their 50s.


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Good luck ~ most guys like my ladies but anyone who takes advice in that area from me is a fool .
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FWIW, I was 35 when I got cut loose and banged the drum so loudly for the next few years I bet they heard it in BOSTON .
What does these two phrases mean? Google is no help...


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No regrets, I find women over 40 to be far better in every respect .
Well, I want children, so there is that. Or take another way, could say women are like a bottle of wine, get better with age?


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Painting the roof on a Squareback white not only makes it look far better as it increases curb appeal, it also keep you cooler inside .
It has crossed my mind, however, be when doing a full paint job as the roof is in the best condition...


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There used to be discarded graymarket Typ III's littering America, not so much anymore .
Shame, though already have too many vehicles.


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As a Mechanic I'd look for the best body and paint I could find, the rest is gravy IMO .
I agree, though rather do welding than electrical, even though enjoy both, as with welding there is visible progress.
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Old 06-28-2021, 06:32 PM
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O.K., the red battery grease looks good to me . about two million years ago they sold red lacquer battery terminal spray, it worked gangbusters but was hell to get off your fingers and shop clothes / cloths .

"cut loose" = the ex wife decided to shove off for netter & greener grass, has been trying to come back ever since, can't keep any man .

"bang the drum" + I got married at age 18 or 20 and so missed out on all the wild sex...

Or, maybe not ~ it turns out most women are far better after they're 35 or so, they've been around the block and typically know what they want and will or won't accept .

As I'm fond of saying : she gave me my wonderful son and shoved off, I still have my cars. trucks, Motocycles and the decrepit 1923 termite farm, er CLASSIC CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW (yeah, that's it ) .

One of the more beautiful women I had to kick to the curb got married shortly thereafter and gave birth to a healthy daughter when she was 45 years old, choose wisely if you want children .

I've had many women over 40 who could easily pass for 30, this can be a serious problem .

My Sweet was stopping traffic until about age 70 and still looks fine to me at 78 .

Your mileage may vary because the right one for you might not get a second look from me or anyone else .

I'm pretty sure the last bottle of turtle wax I bought was plastic, as I said I now use Granitize products, they're online .

If the paint doesn't look too bad, try some wax first ~ you can always go back and polish it later if you don't like the gloss .

Be gentle with compounding and polishing pasts .

Compounding is really coarse stuff and grinds the pant seriously .

Polish is just that : a fine grade pf polishing medium in some sort of base, can be liquid or paste, tread very lightly ~ older Acrylic Enamel paints are dead easy to bring to a high gloss shine, newer paints are easy yo burn rigt through .

I don't use power tools, you can feel the paint getting shinier right through the sponge and so know when to stop or move to another area .

Mr. Hofffman made a boatload of movies, I can't say which I liked best as tastes change with the decades, knowhutimean ? .

I don't now wy but in the W123's European diesels had *slightly* heavier bumpers, still nothing you should ever bump or crash with .

IIRC the ones on my 300CD (W123 diesel coupe) came mostly from a Canadian 230E gasser .

KI do a lot of mix and matching with used parts, often folks think my machines have never been touched from new, I prefer them to not have 'mechanics marks' all over the place .

I've had to do seriously hard works to rectify hydraulic brake system after a tiny bit of non brake fluid got into them, you'll do what you choose, be careful .

Electrical is easy too, just PAY ATTENTION ad don't get cute / clever .

Follow the factory color codes and solder everything .

Of course, right now I'm struggling with a 39 year old Honda that has a weird engine miss, at this point I'm throwing parts at it and have just ordered the very last electrical part there is, I hope to hell that fixes it 'cause it's kicking my butt .
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Is it the Bently book ? .
It's the vw published manual, don't think Bently was the publisher.

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