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Old 06-27-2025, 11:15 AM
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Would you buy an electric car if you couldn't charge it at home?

If you lived in an apartment complex where onsite charging of an electric car was an impossibility, would you still buy an electric car as your sole mode of transportation?

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Old 06-27-2025, 01:41 PM
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Old 06-27-2025, 02:01 PM
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nope either
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Old 06-27-2025, 04:27 PM
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Depends - if I had a charging station at work or school then I'd be down.

At this point youre talking 300+ miles for many EVs which is often several days of commuting before a recharge.

Fwiw if you can get past the looks, the EQS is a shockingly (ha) good deal used. If my w212 conks out, likely my next ride unless I go full S63/E63 wagon.
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Old 06-27-2025, 05:24 PM
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It depends how fast they can get batteries like this into EV's


Scientists just invented an EV battery that can fully charge in 5 minutes


then it wouldn't be any different then gassing up. Currently I'd only do it if I had easy access to a level 3 charger which supposedly give around 200 mile charge in 15 minutes. It also depends on your circumstances - my retired friend bought a used tesla that came with lifetime free charging. There's a charger near his house that's in front of a popeyes chicken place so he eats there often while his car charges. He's got time to burn.


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I don't think you'll see much interest among apartment and townhouse dwellers. Charging at a public charger costs 2-4 times more than filling with gasoline. That will vary depending on where you live, but that's certainly the case on the East Coast. You have to avoid being suckered by MPGe...it's VERY misleading.
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Old 07-02-2025, 08:09 PM
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I still believe older mercedes diesel powered cars present an alternative. OM617, OM603, OM604, OM605, OM606 diesel engines. For starters, you at least have an engine up front to help protect you and the other occupants in the event of a head-on collision. Then, there is the reliability of a diesel engine.

And you don't have to look for a charging station that will work for your particular model car/SUV.
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Old 07-03-2025, 11:27 AM
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I gave up on old Merc Diesels years ago. Parts availability, lack of skilled mechanics, complicated electrical systems. And really not that economical compared to more modern gas cars. I still have a VW TDI, which gets 50mpg, but the future is my RAV4 hybrid, which gets 55mpg on regular gas. That's cost equivalent to an electric car that gets 165 MPGe.
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Old 07-03-2025, 11:30 AM
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I will probably eventually purchase a hybrid. I like what I read about the Honda CRV hybrid.
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Old 07-03-2025, 11:38 AM
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I still believe older mercedes diesel powered cars present an alternative. OM617, OM603, OM604, OM605, OM606 diesel engines. For starters, you at least have an engine up front to help protect you and the other occupants in the event of a head-on collision. Then, there is the reliability of a diesel engine.



And you don't have to look for a charging station that will work for your particular model car/SUV.
A brand new EV is leaps and bounds safer in practically any collision than any car even 20 years ago, let alone 40+. We've been over this more than once...

Aside from software teething issues (many of which are fixed with OTA updates and in principle aren't any different than new ICE model teething issues), EVs are pretty darn reliable, and have very few mechanical and wear parts.
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Old 07-03-2025, 01:44 PM
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I will probably eventually purchase a hybrid. I like what I read about the Honda CRV hybrid.
Liking mine so far...
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Old 07-03-2025, 04:56 PM
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I still believe older mercedes diesel powered cars present an alternative. OM617, OM603, OM604, OM605, OM606 diesel engines. For starters, you at least have an engine up front to help protect you and the other occupants in the event of a head-on collision. Then, there is the reliability of a diesel engine.

And you don't have to look for a charging station that will work for your particular model car/SUV.
The presence of a solid, crush-resistant engine block in the front of a vehicle is not a life saver. For decades the philosophy of a safe car has revolved around a solidly constructed passenger compartment flanked with front and rear ends designed to crush in a controlled manner. Some of the more forward safety designs of the past included a manner for the engine block to move backwards, and most critically, downward during a front end collision, getting the engine down and out of the way of the crush of the front end.
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Old 07-03-2025, 10:22 PM
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Interesting, years back, a man driving a Ford F350 diesel pick-up truck got into a head on collision with a Honda. The Honda's engine performed exactly as you described; it dropped downward and slid back.

Meanwhile, the massive diesel engine in the truck acted as a battering ram and killed Honda man. When state police arrived on the scene they found dead Honda man and beat-up slightly injured pick-up man. The state cop told Ford diesel man that the massive diesel engine saved his life.

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