A valid reason for a war? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

zla39fj · #1 01-24-2003, 01:40 AM

I am wondering if we Americans have ever changed Presidents during a war?

anthonyb · #2 01-24-2003, 01:49 AM

Vietnam.

zla39fj · #3 01-24-2003, 01:59 AM

Get ready to change again. This is going to be a costly, long and unpopular war.

420SEL · #4 01-24-2003, 08:05 AM

Korea too.

#5 01-24-2003, 08:28 AM

It sure is nice have a leader with the gut's to do what is right regardless of popularity amongst mercedes owners.

420SEL · #6 01-24-2003, 10:16 AM

Hopefully Bush will have more guts than Truman did in Korea. If that moron had allowed the army to send planes over the Yalu river (NK's border with China) they could have seen the Chinese coming and a phone call to Bejing reminding them of Hiroshima could have stopped them. There would be no North Korea today. It is pretty clear that avoiding possible conflit today because it is convenient can lead to decades of suffering. If there is a war it should be pretty damn thorough.

zla39fj · #7 01-24-2003, 03:52 PM

In both Viet Nam and Korea, the President in office served the maximum number of back to back term permitted by law. The American people have never voted out a President during a war.

#8 01-24-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by 420SEL
Hopefully Bush will have more guts than Truman did in Korea. If that moron had allowed the army to send planes over the Yalu river (NK's border with China) they could have seen the Chinese coming and a phone call to Bejing reminding them of Hiroshima could have stopped them. There would be no North Korea today. It is pretty clear that avoiding possible conflit today because it is convenient can lead to decades of suffering. If there is a war it should be pretty damn thorough.

I agree.

#9 01-24-2003, 07:34 PM

One more thing

I base most of my decisions on fact, although I have been credited to have great intuition I still base my decisions on factual provable evidence.

While the UN inspectors look for chemical weapon's Saddam's son say's that if the battle get's fierce they will use nerve gas against their opponent.

So what does this tell us?

The picture of a dead Iraqi woman holding her dead child is definitely one of the most horrific pictures I have ever seen in my life. Has anybody seen this after Saddam's chemical attack on the Kurd's?

Richard Eldridge · #10 01-24-2003, 08:47 PM

Is that after they conquer Iraq's army and depose Saddam, they will be trying to run a country wheree pretty much everyone mistrusts us or hates us.

Reagan sold the materials and equipment to Saddam it make the gas used on the Kurds.

Olebush promised air support to the Kurds if they would rebel. Then he didn't come through and they were massacred and run out of town. I know I would not trust a Bush after that.

If there were a democracy in Iraq, a true democracy, the Shiite majority would be in charge, and they are natural alies of the Iranians.

The Turks, our allies, do not want there to be a Kurdistan, because that would involve Turkey losing territory.

Is the US willing to keep troops in Iraq for as long as we have spent in Korea? I suspect that US troops woul;d be a lot more unpopular in Iraq than they have been in Korea, because of the different social structure.

We shall see what we shall see, I suppose.

#11 01-25-2003, 04:43 AM

SPOCK Is on the right tracK.

Since 99.999 percent of the Iraqi's voted and 100% voted for the Saddam does this tell you Iraqi's are passionate about thier voting or are the afraid of lead poisoning?

TTaM · #12 01-25-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by SP0CK
"Reagan sold the materials and equipment to Saddam it make the gas used on the Kurds."

Please site the source if this is faCtual data.

"Is the US willing to keep troops in Iraq for as long as we have spent in Korea? I suspect that US troops woul;d be a lot more unpopular in Iraq than they have been in Korea, because of the different social structure. "

It is my leaRning that many Iraqi's are afraiD to admit support for America. Does anyone know this to be tRue? Either way it sounds as if you are saying we would be engaGing in nation building. This may well be the need and a heaftY task at that.

http://www.politicalclothing.com/iraq_timeline_11_17.pdf

It is well known that the US trained and funded Iraq through the '80's. Iraqis fear Saddam, but western culture is almost as evil. If/when we depose Saddam, a new government needs to be put in place. There is a reason Bush Sr. stopped at Baghdad's door. This is a huge undertaking. There is no real threat right now coming from Iraq. I think the threat is coming moreso from North Korea. I'm just hoping that this conflict can be delayed until the next election when Bush is NOT reelected. I am not oppesed to war like most of the love not war fanatics out there, but only when it is justified. War would bolster our economy. I just don't think Iraq is a justified target. Plus, has anyone even listened to Bush talk? My god, that man is a moron. I'm glad I didn't go to Yale, it would have been a waste of money.

TTaM · #13 01-25-2003, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by SP0CK
This is true RS. He said he would continue lonG after we forgot. I am glad he is staying the course regardless of our less informed de-classified public and mediA.

Sorry to say this Spock, but you are part of the declassified public. Come on, you didn't even know of the government funding of Saddam. While war is going on, America will not forget. The media only chooses to report on the possibility of war because conflict makes for more interesting news.

#14 01-25-2003, 02:45 PM

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Plus, has anyone even listened to Bush talk? My god, that man is a moron. I'm glad I didn't go to Yale, it would have been a waste of money.

No, Yale is a good school; if you take advantage of your education there. I've heard a rumor that Bush's SAT scores were close to 1000...obviously, there were some machinations that got him into Yale.

Personally, I would rather have John McCain (a military veteran) at the helm of our nation during these times. At least he's somewhat articulate and seems fairly intelligent (at least on-camera).

-Sam

#15 01-25-2003, 06:42 PM

Sam,

Being judgmental on someone because of appearance or a southern drawl will be detrimental to your future if you ever seek any position where you have to communicate with others.

Also if you like Political clothing you will LOVE propaganda matrix or Drudge retort, it's nothing more than a well put together conspiracy site.