Hi All

So from recollection i have read threads on the Chimp's (Bush's) visit to London, legalities of the Iraq war, Islamic extremism, pre-empitive strikes etc etc....

I would like to know whether you guys actually think if Al Qaeda can actually be defeated as the Chimp and his Gimp (Blair) think?

Speaking at a joint press conference Bush stated "the terrorists hope to intimidate, they hope to demoralise... they're not going to succeed."

My personal view is that anybody who uses violent means to 'object' to the order of the day falls into the incorrect definition of 'terrorist' with 'possible' links to al-Qaeda. That makes a lot of unidentifiable people branded as al-Qaeda. The USA did not win in Vietnam against a 'Peoples Army', the UK did not, and has not, succeeded in destroying the IRA despite over 30 years of trying to with intelligence, with some force. Al-Qaeda as we refer to it will NOT be defeated. The root causes MUST be re-examined 'cause & effect', 'action & re-action'. Phrase it as you will. The ROOT causes must be looked at in an unbiased, non-aligned way.

It also totally baffles me that Bush and Blair can piously pronounce their resolve to defeat terrorism, having recently kicked off a war with Operation Shock and Awe. What was that if not a terror bombing campaign that killed thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. If we cannot see our own states' terrorism, what chance is there of bringing an end to freelance terrorism?