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mikemover 04-17-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by narwhal
Husband is in college when couple marries. Wife gets accepted into medical school at same time. Couple has child after first year of medical school. Husband drops out of college in junior year, so that wife can continue medical school, and to avoid bankruptcy. He never finishes college and, by agreement of the parties, has stayed home to raise the children while neurosurgeon wife makes $1.2M/year.

Wife starts screwing her scrub nurse and causes parties divorce She has spent a considerable fortune on her lover over the last few years including a house, car, ect..... Husband gets custody and child support, plus one-half of what the have accumulated during the marriage(debt). He has no job history, and no college education, because he forsook both so wife could become a doctor. Child and husband end up on welfare, wife marries scrub nurse and moves him into mansion her family used to live in.

Watch out for "dime store legal advice", FOLKS.

Whatever. He made that CHOICE, and he can live with the consequences.

Mike

mikemover 04-17-2004 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by narwhal
Since you live in a 'community property' state, this is exactly what happens, without a pre-nup.
Yes, some states have taken care of the issue legislatively, making a pre-nup not an absolute "must". However, many states have not figured that out yet.

Mike

GermanStar 04-17-2004 12:21 PM

I live in a community property state and the concept is not without its problems. God help you if you're separated but not divorced. Anything you buy with your money is half hers unless she grants you the favor of signing off on it. Buy a car -- it's half hers. Buy a house -- it's half hers -- it doesn't matter whose money it is.

GermanStar 04-17-2004 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by narwhal

GermanStar: nothing is without its problems. If you find something that is, let me know, and sign me up for some:D

In my state, post separation earnings are not martial property. We are not a community property state. This is part of the "reforms" my state has made to deal with the archaic community property statutes that MM endorses.

Yes -- when I moved to Arizona from Illinois in the midst of a divorce a little while back, I thought a time warp had landed me back in the stone age. I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't find the "community property" concept progressive.

GermanStar 04-17-2004 01:47 PM

Re: Married, Rich, Rockstar....
 
'Married rockstar' kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? I suppose once you reach a certain age... :D

mikemover 04-17-2004 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by GermanStar
I live in a community property state and the concept is not without its problems. God help you if you're separated but not divorced. Anything you buy with your money is half hers unless she grants you the favor of signing off on it. Buy a car -- it's half hers. Buy a house -- it's half hers -- it doesn't matter whose money it is.
So if you're "separated", don't make any major purchases until you're divorced....Seems pretty simple.

Mike

GermanStar 04-17-2004 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by mikemover
So if you're "separated", don't make any major purchases until you're divorced....Seems pretty simple.

Mike

Yes, it sounds simple -- it's just not always feasible -- at least it wasn't in my case.

mikemover 04-17-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by GermanStar
Yes, it sounds simple -- it's just not always feasible -- at least it wasn't in my case.
Sorry to hear that....but I'd say your situation, whatever it was, was probably the exception to the rule.

Seems like there would be a simple fix for this "loophole" as well....The law could be amended so that as soon as one party files for divorce, or perhaps there could be "intent to divorce" papers that one could sign, the community property rule would no longer apply.



Mike

GermanStar 04-17-2004 07:31 PM

Well, as it was, I had to go crawling on my hands and knees to get a release from my soon-to-be ex-wife, who tried to use it as a bargaining chip. Trust me -- you wouldn't have liked it...

Botnst 04-17-2004 07:39 PM

The "sounds simple and oughtsta be simple, but isn't" rule of life is why people hire physicians, airline pilots, double-nought spies, soldiers, M-B mechanics, botanists and yes, even lawyers.

Botnst

GermanStar 04-17-2004 07:58 PM

Had a lawyer -- a shark of a divorce lawyer who happened to be good friends with the Judge -- this guy was magnificent (and I've seen mediocre lawyers -- I do know the difference). Ex in Illinois, married in Illinois, divorce in Illinois, property purchase in Arizona. It really had nothing to do with the divorce as such, and I felt it best to swallow some crow and handle it personally, which I did. It just seemed ridiculous that I had to endure it at all.

MedMech 04-17-2004 10:59 PM

Re: Re: Married, Rich, Rockstar....
 
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Originally posted by GermanStar
'Married rockstar' kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? I suppose once you reach a certain age... :D
Mr. Mover has one of those win-win scenario's that seems to work for his wouldbe-couldbe spouse so I guess thats a win----->win---0 to me.

Long live the rock star.

mikemover 04-18-2004 10:23 PM

Re: Re: Re: Married, Rich, Rockstar....
 
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Originally posted by MedMech
Mr. Mover has one of those win-win scenario's that seems to work for his wouldbe-couldbe spouse so I guess thats a win----->win---0 to me.

Long live the rock star.

:D Life is good. :D

Mike

Johnson Chan 04-19-2004 12:58 AM

The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
 
First thing is first: 1) Thomas Crown affair 2) bad boyz 1 & 2 with will smiths character. If i was single and super rich, I would be happy. I really like the thomas crown affair cause of the bentley and the mind games. :D

To the prenump, there is a few issues though. Nowdays you have "gold diggers" that try to take advantage of guys for money. What is this socieity coming to?

I dont know what you guys think, but a girl that will marry (or be with) a sugar daddy is nothing more than a prosititue to me. Any agreements or dissagreements? I lose respect and interest in them almost instantaniously.

For you married guys out there, would you have married your wife if she was an ex-stripper or ex-escort? What would you do if you found out she was AFTER being married for XX years?

Frank X. Morris 04-19-2004 01:27 AM

Howdy All,
I voted rich and single. I got it half right:)

GermanStar 04-19-2004 01:30 AM

Re: The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
 
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Originally posted by Johnson Chan
The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
:confused:

Botnst 04-19-2004 08:38 AM

Re: The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
 
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Originally posted by Johnson Chan


For you married guys out there, would you have married your wife if she was an ex-stripper or ex-escort? What would you do if you found out she was AFTER being married for XX years?

When I was considering marrying I made a decision never to ask my wife about her previous intimacies. None of my business. It is still none of my business.

If I found out about something that happened before we were married, by some third party? I'd NEVER mention it to my wife. To what end?

Botnst

TomJ 04-19-2004 06:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
 
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Originally posted by TheVirginiaDude
.............Stay away from the onse with nore drivers than an old rental car.
But..., but...., they're the funnest ones!!!

Johnson Chan 04-19-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Sp0ck
I'd rather be a jigilo and marry into wealth.
I will drink to that! Let me know if you find one that is rich and single. Oh yeah cute too ;)

Botnst 04-19-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Re: Re: The system is taken advantage of and other favorite movies
 
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Originally posted by TheVirginiaDude
I personally would never. Geeze do you have any idea the thought going through your head at times.

You would have to be a saint to deal with that and not let it ge to you.

Find a nice girl marry her. Stay away from the onse with nore drivers than an old rental car.

Going through your head? Think of the head she's gone through!

Spo123 04-19-2004 10:09 PM

sometimes, when I wake up in the morning....I am still tired!
How can that be?
Keep those diesels humming:D
spo out:cool:

Botnst 04-19-2004 10:42 PM

Trust, honor, love. These are words that she and I have lived by for nearly 30 years. I'll live with them rather than worry without cause.

Plantman 04-19-2004 11:27 PM

I never worry about what happened prior to me. Don't ask, don't tell.

It wouldn't do any good for either of us to know anyway.

Obviously, you don't marry a chick who swallows penis for a living(unless that's your thing) but you qualify and learn about the other person and move on.

Personally, it's none of my business.

If I had a doubts to her fidelity and reputation, I'd never have married her.

.02

Johnson Chan 04-20-2004 07:39 AM

For me personally its a tough call. I can understand where plant and botnest are coming from with the "dont ask dont tell question". I can see where the past should stay in the past.

At the same time though, i understand where virginia dude is coming from, people dont change. At least not overnight. once trust is compromised, there isnt much left in a relationship.

I knew of a few wifes, who has other guys "cum over", no pun intended, while the husband was at work. Later the husband found out that his wife was having an affair(s). I couldnt image the pain the husbands felt.

Just like the neurosurgon wife example with the nurse scrub, kind of...

Maybe for all us single guys out there, we have a subconscious trust issue?


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