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Old 07-26-2004, 10:26 AM
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Unhappy gauge problems after removing cluster

I removed the instrument cluster in my 1987 300E to see if I could fix a broken odometer and trip odometer (they both stopped working suddenly). Not only did I not fix them, but I managed to create some new problems with various gauges:

1. the right turn signal flasher does not come on (the outside signals flash, but not the flasher on the dash). the left flasher works fine.
2. the oil pressure gauge does not work (it is at zero). BUT if the cluster is jiggled just the right way, it will work for a split second. Or if the cluster is held a certan way (removed from the dash, moving it around to try to get it to work), it will work but will stop when the cluster is repositioned.
3. the tachometer will not go above about 1000 rpm. BUT exact same thing as the oil pressure gauge, it will work for a moment if jiggled right and will work if held in a certain position.
4. when the cluster is held so that the oil pressure and tach work as described above, if I turn on the right turn signal, check this out: the oil pressure gauge and tach needed get blipped up and down like a metronome just like the turn signal flasher should be coming on and off (the turn signal flasher still doesn't work when this happens).

There must be some issue with some of the wiring coming out the back of the cluster but I can't figure it out. I seem to have everything plugged back in the right way, and I can only get the tach/oil pressure gauge to work by trial and error, moving and twisting the cluster around, and I can't seem to figure out which of the connections/wires are the ones that are causing these problems. Can anybody help out? Do these items have a common ground, or common connector at the back of the dash? This is driving me nuts. Thanks for any help.

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Old 07-26-2004, 01:32 PM
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Been there done that.

I came across the same problem. I had my dash removed by a mechanic to fix 1bulb. The car came back and the whole right side wasn't working...and to add insult to injury, the bulb that was installed burned out. More damage was done than good.

Anyway I put up with it for about a year. Then had it fixed. Basically the ground was screwed up. Fortunately it's a DIY job. Just solder a wire to the back of your cluster and screw the other end to the car's body. I'm sure your problems will be solved.

Lesson....if it's NOT mechanically important, don't fix it.

Good luck.
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:47 PM
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Lesson....if it's NOT mechanically important, don't fix it.

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That would explain the condition of some of the cars coming down Fort Weaver Road!
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Old 07-26-2004, 02:19 PM
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Been there done that.


Anyway I put up with it for about a year. Then had it fixed. Basically the ground was screwed up. Fortunately it's a DIY job. Just solder a wire to the back of your cluster and screw the other end to the car's body. I'm sure your problems will be solved.

Lesson....if it's NOT mechanically important, don't fix it.

Good luck.
Interesting, I'll try that. I should've just left the odometer alone. I figured car would be hard to sell (which I may do next year) with a broken odo as people may not believe my '87 only has 86k on it. But then again this is probably the 10th time I've tried to fix a car problem and made it worse....
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JR, I tried what you suggested and it worked great (actually, I ran the ground wire from a screw on the back of the metal tach housing and tapped into a ground wire for one of the other instruments. Thanks much for your help!!! But the right turn signal indicator still doesn't work; may try another ground to see if that does it. Thanks again, Andy

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