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Old 09-14-2004, 07:31 PM
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DOT Headlight with ECE Lens? (and more Questions)

Does this work or not? Is there a need for me to totally upgrade the entire headlight on my 1994 E420, or is using an ECE lens on a DOT headlight basically the same thing?

How much of a difference is there (can it be quantified) between the DOT headlight and ECE headlight for model years 1994 and 1995. I know that the <1993 W124 DOT headlight SUCK, and as such, the ECE is a huge improvement. Is such an improvement observable with the 1994 headlights?

Is there a need for me to shoot for E500 headlights (with pencil beams), or should I stick with the standard E420 (with fog lights)

Iíve already stated communication with PUMA to get an idea on pricing and availability on the headlights.

Thanks for any help.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:46 PM
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'94 on, 124 was first year where Benz finally got some decent glass lens with Euro style patterns. I have changed E320s to Euro lens and made wall comparisions, with very little difference in the findings ..
Both E codes and DOT have horz cut-off and right angle focus ..
not worth the change ..
Lamps are H4s for both ..

Pre face-lift 124s [ before '94] will be a great improvement, but not 94/95 models.

One will also notice that the DOT reflectors have the City lamp cut-out hole, indicating reflector is same..

You will have a hard time telling any difference... at least, that is what I have found.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:17 PM
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'94 on, 124 was first year where Benz finally got some decent glass lens with Euro style patterns. I have changed E320s to Euro lens and made wall comparisions, with very little difference in the findings ..
Both E codes and DOT have horz cut-off and right angle focus ..
not worth the change ..
Lamps are H4s for both ..

Pre face-lift 124s [ before '94] will be a great improvement, but not 94/95 models.

One will also notice that the DOT reflectors have the City lamp cut-out hole, indicating reflector is same..

You will have a hard time telling any difference... at least, that is what I have found.


Thanks Arthur, thatís exactly the information I am looking for (and somewhat expeced). So there really isnít a reason to replace the entire headlight. Since I have a cracked lens I might as well switch to ECE glass (assuming this is possible) - donít you think?

If the reflector bowl and other internals are pretty much the same, if I move to a relayed harness, ceramic H4 connector, and 80/100 bulb I should be in business. Agreed?


What are the part numbers for the city lamp socket? I might as well activate those, no?
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:18 PM
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94/95 lights are just fine. The only upgrade that I'd suggest is getting some genuine OSRAM silverstar +50% bulbs. They really make a difference, and they're safe for wiring (unlike some of the higher wattage bulbs that can fry it).

Troy K.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:30 PM
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If you need lens anyway, then I would do the ECE , as they did have a slightly better , more defined pattern.. as far as lamps are concerned , Ihave no problem with stock H4s..
Remember, your old lens have road hash , [ wether you see it or not] and new glass will be noticably brighter..

I would also try those +50%s before going with wiring changes [as Troy suggest]
I was thinking of them myself, but for my driving, not needed at all....

The most important factor with lens that do have definate patterns is , of course, proper aiming/alignment..

See archive for article I submitted somewhere in there...
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:02 PM
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$69 For ECE Non-E500 Headlight lens a reasonable price?

I think I am going to get a pair and slap them on.

Any recommendations on an adhesive film or something to put over the glass? I want to keep these lens' nice and clear. Such films have no adverse side affects right (like on the wipers or something)? Where can I get some?
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