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Old 09-30-2004, 03:30 PM
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190E Sway Bar question

Wondering ??
Is the sway bar in an 87 16V 190E bigger than the stock bar on a 85 190E 2.3 8v
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:24 PM
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Front US model 201 anti roll bars:

201 323 52 65 All 190E 2.3 and 190D 2.2
201 323 71 65 All 190E 2.6 (measured 25 mm)
124 323 19 85 All 190E 2.3-16 (measured 23.5mm)
201 323 79 65 All 190E 2.5, turbo & NA


Rear US model 201 anti-roll bars:


201 326 36 65 All 190E 2.3, 190D 2.2, 190D 2.5
201 326 38 65 All 190E 2.6, 190D 2.5 turbo (measued 14.2 mm)
201 326 33 65 All 190E 2.3-16

If anyone can fill in the rest of the thickness dimensions I'd appreciate it.

Duke

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Old 09-30-2004, 06:29 PM
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The 190E 2.3 and 190D 2.2 share the same bar,
the 190D 2.2 has larger bars than the 190E 2.3
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Old 10-01-2004, 02:38 AM
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I rewrote my previous post with all the anti-roll bar info I have on US model 201s. The part numbers are from the MB parts book. Measurements are my own for those I was able to measure.

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Old 10-01-2004, 02:11 PM
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Duke, the part number I have for the 2.3-16 front bar is 201 323 78 65
The 124 part number you have is for the rubber mounting.
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part #'s

do u have the part numbers for the 500E and E60 front bars by any chance?

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Duke, the part number I have for the 2.3-16 front bar is 201 323 78 65
The 124 part number you have is for the rubber mounting.
Thanks,!!! I was suspicious of a 201 anti-roll bar beginning with "124" because differences in chassis dimensions mean that 201 and 124 bars are not interchangeable. I guess I copied down the wrong number when I was jotting down the data. At the time I was looking for a slightly larger rear bar to reduce understeer. The parts book does not provide thickness, but knowing what models have different part numbers told me where to look.

It appears that the 16V may have a slightly larger rear bar, but I dropped the idea after doing a track event and realizing that both the suspension and gearing needed major rework along with the addition of a LSD to be track competent. Being as how I have two other cars that are very track competent with just minor suspension tuning I decided to never take the 190E 2.6 to the track again and just use it for normal driving and long distance touring at which it is superb.

The 16V gearbox and LSD differential and a 3.0L M103 engine would make the 2.6 much more sporty, but I decided it wasn't worth the cost and effort to do all the modifications. It's too bad Mercedes never build such a 190E 2.6 "Sport". I was never attracted to the 16V because I wanted the inherent smoothness and higher torque of a larger I6, and the 16V was too close in concept and performance to my Cosworth Vega. The shim under bucket valve adjustment also turned me off. The CV is shim over bucket and just requires a special tool to swap shims.

I don't have any information on anti-roll bars for any models other than 201s. I just went to the dealer and found a friendly parts guy who looked them up for me. Anyone else should be able to do the same for other models.

Duke

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Old 09-30-2004, 05:32 PM
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Wondering ??
Is the sway bar in an 87 16V 190E bigger than the stock bar on a 85 190E 2.3 8v
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Yes

2.3 22mm front 13mm rear
16V 23.2mm front 15mm (?) rear
AMG W201 28mm front 17mm rear
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