Victor Reinz Valve Stem Seals - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

lino · #1 10-15-2004, 02:53 PM

Has anyone replaced their valve stem seals with the VICTOR REINZ brand? The cost is 1/4 of the MB OEM for me. Or should I only use OEM for this repair?

Here is a distributor link:
www.victorreinz.com

Here is some more info:
http://www.engineparts.com/products/ghome.htm

#2 10-15-2004, 09:38 PM

at my shop we only use oem brand, which are made by elring, so either mercedes factory or elring sholde be fine. we have had oil burning issues with victor reinz in the past. Ray
mercedessd@cox.net

lino · #3 10-16-2004, 02:50 AM

The aftermarket parts supplier I deal with carries Elring for transmission filters, but unfortunately the valve stem seals they have are made by Victor Reinz. The reason why I asked is, because MB OEM seals cost $45.35 and I can get the Victor Reinz for wholesale at $12.00.

BenzMatic · #4 10-16-2004, 03:19 AM

How about buying from fast lane, they are 14.64 for your car, unless they do not ship to canada. I changed mine 3K miles ago and they are good, I paid $21.00 at Fast Lane.

Good luck.

lino · #5 10-17-2004, 01:30 PM

According to this link:
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W124/w124CD1/Program/Engine/103/05-2700.pdf

Mercedes recommends using Viton® valve stem seals to reduce oil consumption.
Identification:brown colored material (the OEM and Victor Reinz are brown too)

Viton® links:
http://www.dupont-dow.com/literature/viton/090017a2800b04f9.pdf

Contact Viton® 1-800 853-5515 Toll-free U.S.A. and Canada
http://www.dupont-dow.com/Header/index.asp
http://www.viton.com/Header/index.asp

Here are some pics of OEM Mercedes W201- 190e 2.3 used seals:

Exhaust Valve Stem Seal

Inlet Valve Stem Seal

Has anyone used Viton® before?

mctwin2kman · #6 10-18-2004, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenzMatic

How about buying from fast lane, they are 14.64 for your car, unless they do not ship to canada. I changed mine 3K miles ago and they are good, I paid $21.00 at Fast Lane.

Good luck.

Did you remove the head to do them or did you do it with the head or heads in the car still? I want to do them on my 190E 2.3 but would rather not remove the head just for that job!

lino · #7 10-18-2004, 12:20 PM

You don't have to remove the head for this job. This will give you an idea on how to perform this task easily:

http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W124/w124CD1/Program/Engine/103/05-2700.pdf

#8 10-18-2004, 12:45 PM

viton isn't a brand name of a seal, it is a component used to make the seals, elring also uses viton in their production of the seals.
Ray
mercedessd@cox.net

lino · #9 10-18-2004, 01:18 PM

You're right. I just found that out. Dupont Dow Elastomers sells the Viton® to other companies who use it in the manufacturing process.

lino · #10 10-18-2004, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carson356

viton isn't a brand name of a seal, it is a component used to make the seals, elring also uses viton in their production of the seals.
Ray
mercedessd@cox.net

Who sells Elring retail or wholesale in the US or Canada?

Fishslayer · #11 10-18-2004, 11:22 PM

the ones sold by phil at fastlane appear to have Viton intakes as per MB spec. My eyes are not good enough to see a brand, but I'm sure he would tell ya if you called

#12 10-19-2004, 12:29 AM

lino, what price did your dealer give you? let me know i can probably get them for less and pass the savings on to you. send me an email if you want.
i will let you know my cost tomorrow.
Ray
mercedessd@cox.net

lino · #13 10-19-2004, 07:00 AM

Thank you. I sent you an email.

nglitz · #14 10-19-2004, 03:35 PM

One thing no one's mentioned yet. Those clear plastic tubes in Fastlane's picture are to slide over the ends of the valves to allow the seals to slide over the keeper grooves without getting torn up. A little oil helps, too.

Be sure to take off the plastic slider befor re-assembling the spring retainer & keepers. Too easy to leave on. Guess how I know that.

Enjoy,

#15 10-19-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nglitz

One thing no one's mentioned yet. Those clear plastic tubes in Fastlane's picture are to slide over the ends of the valves to allow the seals to slide over the keeper grooves without getting torn up. A little oil helps, too.

Be sure to take off the plastic slider befor re-assembling the spring retainer & keepers. Too easy to leave on. Guess how I know that.

Enjoy,

The bearing area (top of the valve stem is the main culprid for tearing up new stem seal. Machinist will clean up most of the problems with the top of the valve stems but it is not machine work in the sense of quality. Mostly they de-burr the stem. It only takes one burr to cut a groovein a stem seal. The seal I bought for my 3.8 L engine came with the plastic sleeve. In the old days we used McDonald's straws. They were big enough for small block Chevy Valves.

Dan