Does anyone know for sure if any 104 engines in the early 90's were 3.0 liter ? This question arose in determining the value of a 91 300CE. TIA.

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95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K

Yes, I believe all 300CE's from 1990-1992 were the 3.0 liter M104 engine.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

Agree, and all 300SLs (U.S.) from 90 to 93 were 3.0 liter 104 motors. The coupes were 104.980 while the SLs were 104.981s.

Agreed with the above. I looked at a '92 300CE a few years back. Neat little engine - redline is 7000RPM. Very different than the later m104 engines, it had a distributor rather than the three coils of the later engines. I would guess it's also lacking the electronic throttle.

- JimY

Thank you all,,,, I guess that settles that.

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95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K

Are you looking at buying this car?

Let's see....you have a wagon and a sedan....I guess you'd need a coupe and a convertible to complete the lineup.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

Paul,,,, as much as I would love to have one of every Benz, I'm stretched a bit thin these days. The car in question was totaled and belonged to one of my customers. He and I thought the old ,,, of which you are familiar,,, wrong badging was put on the car, and perhaps he could claim more value if it was indeed a 3.2. Thanks.

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95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K

That begs the question... What are you/he going to do with the car???

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

Nationwide insurance is going to own the car shortly. It was hit in the left front that took both front unibody frame rails over about a foot. The engine has been hit and the hood even came back and hit the windshield. The guy is lucky,,,, another split second and he would have been hit right in the door, and probably would be dead. He has been offered $8200 for the car and he is balking. The car was not an $8200 car,,,, we have worked on it many times, and had 155K on it. I feel he is being offered much more for the car than he ever could have sold it for. I constantly tell my customers that if their car gets totaled, they will in most cases get a very fair deal from MOST insurance companies. The car is still good from the front doors back, but I would never want to repair it. Junk is junk.

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95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K

Sounds like a fair deal... Those coupes hold their value real well but 82 is hard to dispute...

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-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831799-post13.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/831807-post14.html

The guy is a fool to not take the $8200.

A pristine car with low miles would be lucky to get $6000.

His car is probably worth $5k-ish in the private party market.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

The prices on those seem to be all over the place. My buddy has been bidding on some and he's bid up to 7500 on one in Calif. 1992 coupe last week and did not win.

I bought another 124 last night off ebay it was a wagon, 1992 300 TE and I paid $6600. and I thought I was real luck sinve the car has had about everything that goes wrong with a 124 fixed or replaced.

I very tactfully tried to tell him that and he is holding out for 11K as he has seen some for sale at that price. I said so what,,, they are asking that, but will they get it ? Like I said,,, most insurance companies will be very fair with a total loss.

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95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K

But remember that it had to be a 300CE-24 to be a M104. 300CE with
the M103 was also sold in the same years.

Same rule apply to 300E (M103), 300E-24 (M104) and 300TE (M103), 300TE-24 (M104)

All of them are 3.0L in that timeframe.

Best guess to what you have is to look to see how many cams you have
(1 for M103 and 2 for M104) regardless of badging.

br,
syljua

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1998 CL500 W140
1984 230E W123

Sorry I was doing U.S. only. There was a lot of great 103 motor cars that we did not get.