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All of them work!
Knock on wood!
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Let's see... on my 300SD, it was working perfectly when I purchased the car. Then after I decided to pull the instrument cluster to change the bulbs and rebuild the rheostat, etc, it stopped working. Made no sense to me as I didn't touch anything on the clock at the time. Then after several weeks, it started working. When I reset it to reflect the correct time, it stopped working again. This process of starting to work after a while of not working and then quitting once the time is set to reflect the then current time happened two more times. Then all of a sudden, one day I reset it and it actually kept working. So today, I have a working clock.
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Those tiny bulbs can get weak, though - they develop failure modes other than just going dead with a broken filament. I have examples with "hot spots" that don't give out much light; I have others with darkened envelopes with diminished output. I've put in the recommended brand new lamps, I know my dimmer is perfect, and I wouldn't say the brightness in my car is exactly overwhelming. This may be a difference in "taste" between European and US drivers. I'll bet at least 50% of your average US drivers have never touched their dimmer during the entire life of their car!
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My clock is still working also. (1991 420SEL with 182,000 miles). Some of the above posters have talked about their clocks stopping after resetting the time. I think this may be due to the push-in reset mechanism not releasing fully when let go. I think someone even mentioned that they rapped on the reset knob and then the clock started moving again.
As for the dash illumination getting dimmer over time, I think I recall reading on another M-B forum that the bulb can actually develop a coating on the inside of the glass surface, basically a metal-film deposition of material from the filament. This would make the bulb itself dimmer over a long period of time. Of course, there could still be a problem with the dimmer potentiometer. |
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1990 300E - 198,000 miles
I have a '90 and the clock keeps nearly perfect time. By the time daylight savings roll around it's maybe a 1 or 2 min off if that. Clock still works in my '92 as well.
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I will try replacing the bulbs again and play with the dimmer. I had already sort of given up on this cluster brightness issue - until this thread came around and for a brief moment.. hope was here again. I may as well face it - this wonderful car is not perfect. Thank you all.
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I had a prolem with no dash lights on my 240D I took the reostat apart and found that the wiper and wire were green with corosion cleaned them up and it work.
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I have owned over ten Mercedes over the years and none of them had trouble with the clocks. All worked and were remarkably accurate.
Haasman
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Someone asked for a non-broken link for repair procedure. I think they are in the great cyber space black hole now, but I copied this from the web a while back. Credit to the Ritter/Easley list FAQ of years past.
<<< Using the categories of mechanical ability from the Mercedes- Benz Discussion List need to be at the level of "Medium Do-It-Yourselfer" at minimum, to repair your Mercedes-Benz clock. If you are below that level, you may want to provide these instructions for someone who is at the medium level or beyond. Introduction Most later model Mercedes-Benz clock failures are due to a bad capacitor (or capacitors) on the back of the clock. Removal of the instrument cluster to gain access to the clock is a simple process with the use of two special tools that can be made from common household items. You do not have to be an electrical engineer to do this procedure. The electronics on the clock consist of only 4 or 5 components, so identification is easy. Tools needed for repairing late model Mercedes-Benz clocks High powered flashlight or shoplight. A small low-wattage soldering iron. De-soldering tool (not mandatory, but nice). Rosin-core solder. A miniature screwdriver set (flat blade). Meguiar's Plastic Cleaner. Meguiar's Plastic Conditioner. Dash removal tool (Special tool: handmade). To make, fashion a non-OEM factory instrument panel tool out of a a thin coat hangar by doing the following: a. cut the long bottom strip to use as the tool. b. put a 75 degree bend at one end with a couple of inches of extra wire. c. cut the bent wire about 1/4 inch from the bend with a pair of wire cutter and leave a "sharp" edge with the cut. At the other end of the coat hanger, fashion a circular handle out of the excess, leaving the whole tool around 4-6" in length. Parts needed for repairing late model Mercedes-Benz clocks 1. Radio Shack part number 272-1028. You will need two of these capacitors, and they only cost around $1.00 each. These are the only parts needed. Instructions If your car has a telescoping steering wheel, fully extend the wheel (as far away from the dash as possible). (If it doesn't have this feature, you can still probably do this without removing the steering wheel by judicious wiggling.) Using your instrument panel (IP) removing tool (which you built with pride), slide the tool in between the IP and the left side of the dashboard at the 10 o'clock position, with the hook facing down and parallel to the side of the instrument cluster. Push the tool all of the way in. Turn it 90 degrees to the right so that it engages the instrument panel. Grabbing the tool's handle, pull the left side of the IP out carefully, until the tool's hook just clears the dashboard. Repeat step 2 on the right side at the 2 o'clock position. Put a large clean towel on your workbench. You should now be able to grab the IP by hand. Pull it out at the right. Start unplugging things. If the oil pressure gauge has a "live" oil line, unscrew it and cover the open line with a piece of rubber-banded plastic. You'll want to mark the bulb assemblies with numbers if they are not already marked (mine were -- I'm not sure if from factory or not.). Unplug everything. Remove the IP from the car to your bench. Lay the IP face down and carefully note ordering of instrument "pods." Mine had three. Remove the pods carefully and place in a non-scratchable location. Using the Meguiar's products, clean and condition both the inside and outside "glass." It'll take a while, but you'll be pleased with the result. Somehow, the inside glass accumulates dirt over time. Plug in the soldering iron to let it warm up. Now, to the clock. The clock's hands remove easily with your fingers (notation of positioning is unimportant at this point), but the tachometer's needle is better left alone. Remove the three flat screws on the front of the combo which hold the tachometer to the instrument facing. Put the combo face down on the towel. Remove the rear screws which hold the tach and the clock. After removal, you should now be able to separate the combo enough to remove the clock as a component to work on. Don't forget to "save" the rubber gasket on the back of the clock for installation at the proper time. Place the clock face down on the towel. Find the capacitor(s). They are about 1/2 inch long and round. (the only other electrical components are: 1 resistor, a crystal, and an integrated circuit). Note the direction of the capacitors (there should be a "+" on one end.) Using the soldering iron, and a large miniature screwdriver for leverage, "de-solder" the capacitor (or capacitors), placing the screwdriver blade between the capacitor and the circuit board for leverage. You'll have to do this in stair-step fashion, since the solder will probably harden before you can remove the whole thing at once. After removal of the capacitors, "clean" the wire holes by heating the solder and shaking it off. (Note: a "desoldering" tool will work more effectively during this step, but it is not mandatory.) Install the new capacitor(s), without cutting their "leads." Note that the Radio Shack replacements have a "-" instead of a positive marking direction. Cut the leads at the edge of the solder joint. Reassemble and reinstall everything. When putting the clock the clock hands back on, align them both at 12 o'clock. Turn the hands for a few revolutions using the setting knob and align as necessary. Finally, let me know if you complete this procedure successfully; it took a while to type this, and I'd appreciate knowing when each person has completed the repair! Please e-mail me at richard_eas...@baylor.edu To receive similar quality tips as described above on a daily basis, consider subscribing to the Mercedes-Benz Discussion List, which is located at the following site: http://hsb.baylor.edu/html/easley/mercedes/welcome.html >>>>>>>
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1986 560 SEL.........1973 450 SL. Both clocks work fine. Never been repaired or cleaned. They just keep on tickin'!!
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Current car 1983 w126 280se perfect time.
Previous 1984 w123 200 also perfect time. These MB clocks seem more accurate than my wristwatch or computer clock!
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I have a 124 -230CE 1990, and the clock works perfect
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Wow. Thanks for all of the replies.
Anyway, the clock on my car is still working fine, but it is still set on "daylight savings time". I am afraid that if I change it that I may jinx it and it will stop working. The clock on my radio still works too, so I will just go by that. As far as my instrument panel lighting, luckily all of that still works fine, and the intensity is still very adequate. |
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