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Old 01-10-2006, 10:29 PM
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I need a bit of assistance regarding the differential in a 500SEL in the model year 1984 or 1985.

Can anyone who has one of these confirm what differential final drive ratio is in the vehicle??

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Old 01-11-2006, 12:52 AM
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I think it is listed in the owners manual to my car. The same manual covers the 380SE, 500SEL and 500SEC. I will look to see if it is indeed in there, but it may be Thursday before I can check. I have to work all day tomorrow.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:04 AM
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Thanks.

I already have documentation on all the diffs available during those years. It appears that the 500 had the 2.24 but the 380 got the 2.47.

Some folks believe that the 2.24 only went on European deliveries and all of them have the 2.47 over here.

I need confirmation from someone who has this exact vehicle.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:19 AM
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Hmm. That may explain partly why the 500SEL and 500SEC starts out in second gear and the 380SE and 380SL start out in first.
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Hmm. That may explain partly why the 500SEL and 500SEC starts out in second gear and the 380SE and 380SL start out in first.


Also less power. The 400E I'm going to get starts in first with its 2.28:1, I believe, gears.
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Hmm. That may explain partly why the 500SEL and 500SEC starts out in second gear and the 380SE and 380SL start out in first.
I simply cannot imagine starting out in second with a 2.24 rear axle. Even with 5 liters of engine, the vehicle would feel like a dog.
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:28 PM
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Yeah, especially considering that these are heavy cars.
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:31 PM
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my 500sec

starts out in second? if so i guess i never noticed.
it is very torqey though.

if it does, then when you do floor it from a stop it is totally seamless in going into first.

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Old 01-11-2006, 10:53 PM
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oh yeah

first gear with full throttle is pretty much fun.

the euro is noticably quicker. i drove one once.

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1st or 2nd gear start?

I once owned (until T-boned by a 3/4 ton pick-up) an '82 380SE euro version--with full AMG engine treatment. It was a sleeper SCREAMER. It would light the tires off the line, leaving rubber at shifts until the 3-4 at a little over 100.

full throttle downshifts under about 60 were sometimes hairy as rear tires broke loose when it dropped into 2nd. Never B4 (or since) had such a hairy chested daily driver--even my sl-600 pales in comparision to THAT 380 SE.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:18 PM
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wow

sounds like fun.

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I knew a lady once that had a 1981 280SE, with a manual shift. She said it had plenty of power. I am assuming that this was a Euro car?
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The 1990 500se I (briefly) owned before ripping the engine out had a 2.24 rear posi diff and started in 2nd gear.... I'm in the UK though, so it may not help with your question!
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:05 AM
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224/euro

go together, i think

247/us. too

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I simply cannot imagine starting out in second with a 2.24 rear axle. Even with 5 liters of engine, the vehicle would feel like a dog.
So our old diesels that start in 2nd with much less displacement and power feel like... what's slower than a dog (in that sense)? A snail?!?

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