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Help - Window problem.
I've done a lot of searching and think I have the answer, I just would like someone to verify it for me. I need to remove the right rear door panel on my 93 400E (124) and after a lot of prying I have come to the conclusion that all 124 's are not alike. Can someone verify that the post by "psfred" - (copied below) will work for my car.
thanks in advance. psfred Take the ashtray and ashtray housing out, it holds the bottom of the door in with two hooks. Otherwise, remove the trim around the top of the armrest, remove the bolt, remove the lock button When you expose the door latch lever, pry the link up and out of the lever, then push the lever and housing back (or forward, I forget) to unclip it and remove. Pull UP on the door panel when everything is loose -- the panel is held onto the door by four or five hooks. If you pry between the panel and the door, you will break them and end up needing a new panel. Don't forget to remove the trim around the door latch, too. Watch for the wires to the bottom lamp if you have one, the panel won't go very far! __________________ |
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Basically he's right about it. But if the panel has never been removed before, it will be very hard to get loose from the clips that hold it at the very top near the rubber window trim. Mine was probably just a bit rusted there and I really had to pull hard in an upward direction to get it loose. Otherwise, the latch trim just pulls straight out to expose the housing of the latch. That is pulled forward and then out - and then you can pop the door opener rod out of the holder that connects it to the latch.
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Thanks, two more questions:
Does the arm rest get removed from the door panel, or come off with the panel? And, I have pried and pulled on the center portion of the panel (which is somewhat seperate from the rest of the panel), and have pulled some of the clips off. Can that section be reattached once I get the entire panel off? |
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You may be able to re-attach the plastic with some sort of glue, possibly one that will melt and weld the two plastic portions together - not sure how much stress that will be able to withstand though. I've been lucky, and only broken one clip on the driver's door map pocket.
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Thanks, I do it tonight and post results.
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Thanks I'll do it tonight!
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I got the panel off, thanks guys. I found the window laying in the bottom of the door and I can't see how to put it back together. I find two ends of a cable routed arround pulles that seem to somehow fit onto a metal piece at the bottom of the frame that the window sets in. There is another metal piece that was in the bottom of the door that must be somehow involved. Can anybody tell me how it fits back together? I hate to take the other panel off just to see how it fits together!
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I don't think those window regulators are repairable, it'll be both easier and faster to purchase a new one and fit it.
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It looks the cable came apart from a fitting that holds it to bottom of the window frame. Is that part of the regulator?
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Sounds like it, but it's been a while since I did a rear one, maybe these pictures help:
The white tab in the picture above is the part that slides into the guide rail on the bottom of the window - is it from there that the wire cable has become detached?
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Thanks Steven, A picture is surely worth a thousand words!
I think maybe I see where the piece that was in the bottom of the door came from. Yes that is the spot. I have to go and look again. It looks in the picture like there is a small bolt or rivet that holds the part together to hold the ends of tha cable. Is it a big job to take the whole assembly out to repair it? Thanks |
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It'll take some thinking... I remember when mine needed replacing and this huge part arrived and I saw I only had a small opening to squeeze it through. Twisting and turning it helps until you can slide the motor portion out of the hole, and the rest should just follow.
As DIY jobs go, I rate this as "easy, but requires lateral thinking"
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You will need to remove the regulator to repair or
replace it. Disconnect the power wire and make sure the regulator is no longer connected to the bottom of the window glass. Slide the window glass all the way up by hand and keep it there by using a wedge. That makes room to maneuver the regulator out of the door. The regulator is held in by 3 nuts, 1 bolt and a metal tab at the top. The part that usually breaks is called the regulator guide jaw. I have repaired them with epoxy and jb weld, but they will not hold up. It is very hard to find a regulator guide jaw that will fit, but purchasing the whole assembly is expensive. Darrell |
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Thanks Guys, It looks like this will be a busy weekend. I replaced front break pads last night, and have a starter replacement, plug wires and this window problem yet to go. At least I have the old starter out! Who ever relpaced it the last time didn't have it tight, and the heat shield was holding it together. It wore the bushing in an elongated fashon, locked up and got very, very hot
I didn't realize how much I liked this car! If all goes well I'll have the window regulator assy. out and will report what I see. Thansk again |
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