I wonder how the 190E/w201 would look like it it shared w123/w116 DNA instead of w124 styling...

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LOL, it's the W124 that has W201 DNA.

Sacco's design for the W201 was a radical departure for Mercedes at the time. A low front, raised tail with short front and rear overhangs. Sacco called the angular lines of the W201 "diamond cut" and the car actually took styling cues from the C-111 concept car which MB never put into production. Sacco still regards the W201 as one of the most dramatic designs which he oversaw.

they are nice looking.

i remember them as being very exciting to look at when they first came out. i still like them a lot.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Just so happens that I bought one of each new and suffered through their early years.

After driving my '78 300D from '78 to '85, I was tired of the lack of performance, the engine clatter, and the mediocre fuel economy. So, head up and locked, I sold it and bought a new '85 190E. Turned out to be a dark period in my MB-owning life. That piece of crap was hands down the worst car I have ever owned, reliability-wise. It virtually lived at the dealer (thank God for the warranty) up until the end of the warranty period when I traded it on a new '89 190E 2.6. And, during the time I owned the '85, six of my friends owned '85 and '86 models and their experience mirrored mine and all were disposed of early.

The '89 was much more reliable with far fewer warranty repairs although at 70K miles the pistons and related parts were replaced (paid by MB) because of excess oil consumption due to incorrect piston sizes. The 2.6 was a more pleasant car to own because of the added power and smoothness of the M103 engine and the fuel consumption was nearly the same. Matter of fact, the fuel consumption numbers of the 300D and the two 201s were within 1 mpg of each other throughout my time with them.

After the big engine fix in the '89 (pistons/rings, rod bearings (of course), valve guides etc.) I moved into a '95 C280 (Garnet Red/Saddle leather) which continued trending downward in repairs and turned out to be quite a good car, keeping in mind the superiority of the M104 engine vs the M103. But in '01 the lure of the W203 led me to buy a C320 and aside from the well known electronic glitches has been quite reliable, despite all the JD Power comments to the contrary. I still have a lot of faith in MB which means I will be driving an '08 C-Class in about four months.

My advice would be to find a good mid-cycle W202 which would serve well and is a bit more modern and upscale that a W201 although for certain all of the 201s designed in faults would have been repaired long ago. Multiple times, most likely. One important thing when looking at 201s is to be sure the secret AC mod has been performed which fixed the early problems. One of the visible indicators is side panels on the plastic undertray (must be in place) and similar panels on each side of the radiator to force all incoming air through the condensor. There were other component replacements but these were the visible ones.

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