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Old 04-27-2001, 06:32 PM
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WHATS UP GUYS...I HAVE A MENT COND 83 380SEC THAT HAS A PROBLEM THE REAR WHEELS LEAN OUT AT THE BOTTOM....CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.....I NEED TO FIX THIS...PLEASE HELP ME.....THANKS.

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Old 04-27-2001, 07:38 PM
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REAR WHEELS LEAN OUT

THE CAR HAS NEVER BEEN LOWERD OR HAD SPRING WORK DONE ON IT.THANKS AGAIN confused
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Old 04-27-2001, 07:43 PM
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On 126 Chassis cars, /-o-\ seen from the rear is usually a symptom of worn rear subframe bushings. They are a moderate pita to replace, but make a world of difference in the look and hadnling at speed. These bushings compress over time from the weight of the car resting on them and they are considered a wear item on older cars.

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Old 04-28-2001, 06:32 AM
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I agree with Mike.
The subframe bushings are probably shot. Classic sign is the camber problem you described. It could be springs, as they will get mighty tired after 18-19 years of holding that car up. I find most Mercedes springs start to sag after about 12-15 years.

The W126 chassis is very robust, but don't forget that 18 years have slipped by. Check the bushings, then the springs...

John.
THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS...DOSE THAT COST ALOT TO FIX
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Old 04-28-2001, 10:12 PM
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jenkins, ..the rear springs need to be replaced. Before you do that, ...please perform height measurement of the rear in order to determine the correct thickness of spring pads that should go with it. The control arm bushing seldom fails not unless you had an accident. Perform correct spring height adjustment , ..this will eventually solve you camber adjustments. Hope that this info helps.
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Old 04-29-2001, 12:00 PM
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Tom,

Rudy is right. I just spent several weeks chasing a negative camber problem on my 83 SD. I first replaced the subframe mounts and differential mounts with some but limited improvement. I then replaced the trailing arm bushings with no difference. I measured and corrected the ride height using a MR. Gasket #1287 spring rubber as a temporary fix. This made a large improvement. The final solution for me was replacing the passenger side trailing arm as it was much worse and had a deformation that was undectable by looking at it. The Po had hit a curb and put the spare on before selling. I didn't see the dent in the spare until I had completed the repairs.

Hope this helps you.

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Old 04-29-2001, 02:11 PM
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Hey guys.Tom I think Rudy and Bob are right my friends sec had the same problem (looks very bad and dangerous from a few feet away)put new rear springs in the car.Viola fixed.Springs were affordable bout $100 for the set.Could also go with H&R lowering springs for about $300.either way car would look great
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Old 04-29-2001, 05:03 PM
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#1. A viola is a member of the string family in the orchestra 8^)). Voila is french for "there it is", as opposed to voici for "here it is".

#2. I don't own a 126 but I've worked on a few. I've also been following MB web lists for three or four years and IIRCC, most pro wrenches have chimed in that MB springs don't typically wear out. That's not to say it never happens, but it usually isn't the cause of your problems. Any pro wrenches reading this can agree or refute this if they desire, I'd like to know what they think.


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